US States Sovereignty

Debates comparing the sovereignty, autonomy, and status of US states to sovereign countries or EU member states, highlighting differences in federal structures like the US federation versus the EU.

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pier25 • May 25, 2023 • View on HN

Doesn't the US do the same with states instead of countries?

implements • Sep 18, 2020 • View on HN

Country means “sovereign state” - no-one’s suggesting EU member states aren’t sovereign nations in the sense US states aren’t.

jki275 • Oct 17, 2020 • View on HN

US states are not countries.That was set with our Constitution, and thoroughly tested in the 1860s. The idea has never really been seriously tested again since.It’s a quite different setup from the EU.

koenigdavidmj • Feb 23, 2017 • View on HN

American states are sovereign entities, not mere administrative districts that exist at the pleasure of the Feds.

aerique • May 11, 2012 • View on HN

Thanks for the clarification. From the outside (I'm from the Netherlands) it is easy to forget the US is made up of many states which still have at least some sort of independence.Same goes for Europe and its member states I guess.

actionfromafar • Mar 8, 2022 • View on HN

How about non-nation states, such as the US?

ethbr0 • Feb 15, 2021 • View on HN

Almost like the US is some sort of federation of states.

nradov • Sep 19, 2022 • View on HN

There is a huge diversity between US states in our federal structure, just like there is a huge diversity between EU member countries. For better or worse, US states are sovereign entities with the right to govern their own internal affairs. It would be more sensible to compare Mississippi to Romania. (Although Mississippi does still come out worse on certain metrics.)

wlievens • Jul 29, 2014 • View on HN

State and Nation are not the same.

riazrizvi • Apr 19, 2019 • View on HN

That’s a federation, like the USA or Switzerland. It doesn’t matter what type of government you have, it must protect its control over its laws, the federated system is a subset of those laws. So federated governments would take a similarly dim view if foreign entities tried to park and govern themselves in that federation’s border, the foreigners can’t just say, “hey you’ve got a new state in your border”.