Ethics of Eating Animals

Discussions center on the morality of humans causing suffering to animals for food, contrasting human empathy and choice with animal instincts, and debating sentience, consciousness, and comparisons to plants.

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jabl Jun 7, 2023 View on HN

Animals don't have the mental capacity reason about moral philosophy, so we can't really judge them for not behaving in another way. But we humans have, and yes, we can judge other humans for causing unnecessary suffering towards others.

cranekam Jun 20, 2021 View on HN

Just because other animals don’t consider the suffering of their prey isn’t an excuse for humans to do the same. Animals do what is instinctive. Humans (should) have empathy for others, including animals, and are able to make choices about their behaviour. Just because “in nature” animals are eaten alive doesn’t mean we shouldn’t strive to do better.

uxcolumbo Jun 16, 2024 View on HN

With conscious stuff I’m assuming you mean conscious beings.It is against the law to murder another human. In many countries it is also against the law to kill or torture your pet. Are you not living your life according to those agreed upon ‘reasoning’?As humanity evolves, the circle of compassion and common sense will expand to also include those conscious beings that we currently don’t deem worthy of compassion, since having a factory farmed burger on our plate is currently more importan

bugzz May 21, 2021 View on HN

I feel like you have to believe at least one of these 3:1) Life is just a chemical reaction, human sadness / happiness don't matter2) Humans are fundamentally different than other animals - our pain is somehow more real than animal pain3) Animal pain does matter.Personally I favor 3)

marliechiller Feb 4, 2022 View on HN

One could, but with that argument it equates all life as being equal. If that is the case, why is it wrong to murder?Personally, I can very clearly see that a cow or a dog is concious whereas a plant (if concious at all) is very much further towards unconcious than a human understanding of conciousness. Therefore I opt to reduce the suffering as much as possible.I would hope if an alien species that was much more concious than we could comprehend were to stumble across earth, they would no

notRobot Dec 28, 2020 View on HN

It is normal for animals who don't think the same way that we do. They don't understand the concepts of "killing" or "life" and don't value life in the same manner as humans.It's always struck me as odd when unethical treatment of animals is justified by saying "animals eat/kill/hurt other animals too!". We're different from animals. Our standards should be higher.

axepeartree Nov 25, 2020 View on HN

Sentience is what matters. Comparing animals (like cows) with plants is absurd.

jacquesm Nov 22, 2021 View on HN

Yes, but Lions lack - for want of a better term - options, whereas we humans have plenty of options. We decide to boil living creatures alive, their feelings be damned because we like their taste better that way. But that's a very conscious choice to inflict harm. In the court of ethics the Lion was just eating, the human being was inflicting unnecessary pain.

cjg Feb 19, 2024 View on HN

Naive arguments aside, humans can't suffer in the same way a steak can't suffer.

callc Jul 5, 2025 View on HN

This sounds very close to the “It’s ok to abuse and kill animals (for meat), they’re not sentient”