Work Poverty Class Divide
Discussions center on the economic struggles of average workers facing poverty, low wages, and undesirable jobs, contrasted with privileged HN tech users viewed as out of touch and dismissive of these realities.
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People needing to work to support themselves is a "made up problem"?
Hasn't work always sucked . The difference now is ppl have more ways of making money that does not involve traditional employment. Also, there is more wealth than ever flowing around., so pplcan live off inheritances or with relatives or friends who have money. Wealth is growing at 20 percent per year since 2010 in terms of stock market gains but population growth just 1 percent. Even if the gains are dispropprante to the top, that is still a lot of wealth sloshing around.
On a single night in January 2013, 610,000 people were homeless in the united states. 215,344 of those people did not have shelter.[1]This is about 1 in every 500 people living in the United states.Furthermore, 15% of the nation is below the poverty line, including 1.65 million households living on less than $2 per day[2].So, uh... we're not really there yet. There are lots and lots of people in the United States who are just scraping by, living day to day, without ho
The "people" at the top in charge want nothing less than the population to be poor and dependant. There's a reason they've done everything they can to suppress wages and eliminate good jobs.Despite that here on HN you have people cheering them on, excited for it. Tech is one of the last good paying fields and these people don't realize it's not a matter of changing career, because there won't be anything better to retrain in.They are cheering on their own
Nobody in my company is average.None of my friends are average.The odds are very good that, if you are reading HN, you are not an average person either.Please take that into consideration when discussing economic measures meant to improve the lives of the middle class. You are probably better educated, earn more, work in a less physically strenuous job, have better employment prospects, are more likely to start a company, have more respect from your management, and are more likely to le
You are badly out of touch. People take the jobs they have to take to survive. The choice you imagine does not exist for most of humanity.
I hate this mindset that Americans are lazy, they are usually some of the hardest working people in the globe. The wealthy are greedy, and wealth and power continue to concentrate at the top while infrastructure, working conditions and public services crumble. I don't fault anyone for not wanting to contribute to that, quite the opposite. I don't see how the jobs you mentioned are going to start commanding better wages when everyone has to rush to do them because there are no more opti
Go feed yourself without a job network that requires some people to be janitors forever and others to be copy-paste coders who live high on the hogGranting privilege to ephemeral success narratives is on the way out with religion (Behavioral economics is revealing people take jobs because they pay. Not because they’re satisfied. The idea a janitor is choosing that is an outdated bias.Just because you’r
hmm not sure the burden is on me here buddy, you opened with the classic 'middlebrow dismissal'.The people are: - drowning in debt - dying of preventable diseases because they cannot afford healthcare - working for a fraction of the true value of their labour, a fraction that gets smaller every year - losing more workers rights every year. The 'gig' economy was a master stroke of misdirection that destroyed basic protections like minimum wage and an
You cannot structurally expect everyone to have a good career in the us. It is not currently mathematically possible. Please don't delude yourself into thinking the economy could function the same as it currently does without lifelong service industry workers