Chinese Room Argument
This cluster centers on John Searle's Chinese Room thought experiment, debating whether simulating intelligent behavior, such as responding in Chinese, constitutes true understanding or consciousness in AI systems.
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Sounds like the Chinese room thought experiment [1].[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room#Chinese_room_thou...
If brain isn't more special than Chinese room, then brain understands Chinese no better than Chinese room?
The Chinese room argument builds on the premise that there is a meaningful difference between "simulating" intelligence and possessing it.If you "execute" the program manually, you may still not understand Chinese, but the program still does. The room, including you and the program, is functionally a single entity that speaks Chinese. The human is an implementation detail as much as the grey matter is an implementation detail in a Chinese speaking human.Searle's ar
In case you weren't aware, what you've described in your second paragraph is very similar to a famous thought experiment known as 'the Chinese room' - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
I think most of us agree with Searle that a Chinese room does not understand Chinese.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
This is a philosophical question, really. Is there ever true understanding, or just pattern matching? The Chinese Room thought experiment talks about this:> Searle's thought experiment begins with this hypothetical premise: suppose that artificial intelligence research has succeeded in constructing a computer that behaves as if it understands Chinese. It takes Chinese characters as input and, by following the instructions of a computer program, produces other Chinese characters, wh
Thats not the Chinese Room argument. The argument says just because a system processes X doesn't imply it has consciousness of X.
Reminds me of the Chinese room [1] argument: Does a computer really understand Chinese language if it can respond to Chinese inputs with Chinese outputs?[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room
Yes. The "system" understands Chinese in the same way a native speaker does. It's two different implementations (room system and native speaker) of the same computation ("understanding Chinese"). There is no externally observable difference between actually understanding Chinese and a perfect simulation of a system that understands Chinese. The fact that the person inside doesn't speak Chinese as a result is irrelevant in the same way that the L2 cache alone without