Vaccine Herd Immunity Debate
The cluster discusses the tension between personal choice in vaccination and societal responsibility for herd immunity, emphasizing protection of vulnerable people who cannot vaccinate and reducing healthcare burdens.
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For some vaccines, it's not an individual choice. People who choose not to use them for themselves put the rest of the population at riskhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
Vaccinations decrease the chance you’ll take valuable hospital space from someone who isn’t there for covid. That’s the real issue. Anyways, maybe you’ll eventually get the picture and get vaccinated, maybe not, but eventually you will be a pariah in the community and I certainly won’t be there to defend your idea of freedom.
It's not really about you. It's about preventing other, more vulnerable people from getting sick. Living in a society means giving up some of your freedoms in exchange for security, and getting vaccinated as a way to help other people should be part of that exchange.
Think about the people who are old, immune compromised, sensitive to something in the vaccine, etc.: vaccines protect them when enough people in the community are vaccinated that the virus cannot spread. You personally may not be at high risk but it’s still non-zero and your decision to get vaccinated will help people who for whatever reason cannot.
The people who don't get the vaccine aren't just hurting themselves. We need herd immunity for people who can't take it, or for whom it won't benefit.There are definitely people who may not benefit as much from the vaccine because they are immuno-compromised for example.The only reason not to take it is if your doctor tells you not to. Unless they've told us not to for medical reasons, we should take it if we can get it, ASAP.And I think pressuring people to tak
My body is not about me? Which people around me are more affected when I take vaccine than me?
“People who are not willing to be vaccinated are free to not participate in society” - argument goes both ways
It is personal. As long as people around me are vaccinated, why would they care about my health? The vaccine doesn't prevent transmittingIn case you are talking about burdening the medical system, why not apply the same rhetoric to smoking, drinking, being fat and riding motorcycles?
You were vaccinated as a child and you're presumably perfectly fine. And it's not about you. It's about not being selfish to end a pandemic that affects other people a lot worse than it does you.
I don't really understand this mentality. If the difference is negligible, why wouldn't you want to get vaccinated just to do more to protect other people around you? They can do everything right (get vaccinated etc) and still get sick and die if they're exposed to covid.