Defenders vs Invaders Casualties

The cluster focuses on historical discussions about whether invading or attacking armies suffer more casualties than defenders, exploring factors like logistics, terrain, sieges, mobility of forces like the Mongols, and examples from WW2, Civil War, and medieval warfare.

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MaxPock β€’ Feb 28, 2025 β€’ View on HN

Do invading armies suffer more casualties than defenders ?

rdtsc β€’ Dec 7, 2016 β€’ View on HN

Didn't find it in the article but is "scorched earth" a possible reason? I am guessing not as the article would have said so. And there were not large organized armies during that time...

hulitu β€’ Sep 20, 2022 β€’ View on HN

An army. It was an advantage at times.

lostlogin β€’ Dec 7, 2021 β€’ View on HN

That’s the strategy that has been employed by armies for a long time - see Vietnam, the WW2 eastern front and numerous other conflicts. But instead of equipment versus equipment it was lots of ill trained farmers versus relatively few well trained soldiers.

ridgered4 β€’ Nov 8, 2022 β€’ View on HN

While that applies to World War II it seems like medieval castles or WWI trenches were pretty effective.

JBReefer β€’ Mar 2, 2017 β€’ View on HN

The strongest military on Earth couldn't defeat a bunch of illiterate people with 40 year old guns in terrain they knew well.

mattmanser β€’ Mar 20, 2019 β€’ View on HN

Before they had a huge, modernized army that would easily win a land battle for Europe.

nradov β€’ Aug 9, 2021 β€’ View on HN

The opposing forces in the US Civil War sustained large armies in the field for years even before widespread industrialized agriculture. In some ways it was a preview of WW1, showing the difficulty of breaking through defensive positions.

hodgesrm β€’ Nov 1, 2018 β€’ View on HN

It depends on the location and time. In the great English victories of the Hundred Years War many ordinary soldiers were killed whereas the French nobility were often spared. It did not hurt that the latter could pay fat ransoms, of course.

humanrebar β€’ Feb 23, 2019 β€’ View on HN

No, we should clearly go back to the days of low tech seige warfare, when battles were won by slowly starving people until they gave up.