Frameworks Usage Debate

So people who don't use frameworks are better programmers than people who do... because... ?

you either use a framework or you end up writing (a bad, usually) framework

I've heard of this before as "Not invented here" syndrome. Frameworks are powerful as they give all developers a common language and methodology for doing repeatable tasks, meaning that when I need to fix a bug in your code, I know how it is architected and where the code should be because you have used a framework I understand.Not to mention that these frameworks undergo alot more extensive testing than an average developers code will ever go through. By using a framework you

Is your avoidance of frameworks/libraries based on principle or performance?

Please read the article before complaining…Key point IMHO:> They [frameworks] are very powerful tools, written in plain vanilla language and in a very generic way, a fact that makes them great learning tools which can help anyone learn how to code without them. In order to know how and when you should use a particular framework you have to understand how frameworks work. Understanding the strengths and the constraints of each framework will enable you to make the right choice of a frame

Not using a framework will harm the existence of your software

The first question to ask should not be "what framework should I use?" it should be "do I really need a framework?"

Not another framework please. What's wrong with developing libraries and releasing them separately?

A Framework Author's Case Against Frameworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7n2xnOiWI8

When has development degraded to "just use a framework"?