Cyberattacks as Acts of War

The cluster debates whether cyberattacks on infrastructure constitute acts of war akin to physical bombings, US policies on retaliation and deterrence, and the risks of escalation in cyber warfare involving nations like Russia and Ukraine.

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curt15 Jan 26, 2019 View on HN

Exposing cyberintrusions is "an act of war"?

adrr Mar 7, 2022 View on HN

Taking a country's infrastructure through a cyberattack is considered an act of war. Same as if you bombed the power generation infrastructure.

3pt14159 Sep 2, 2022 View on HN

In my opinion, this is a good thing. It's akin to disconnecting gas mains during a bombing run or similar. War is war and we need real defensive measures for broad cyberattack.If it gets misused then we'll protest, etc.Edit: You can downvote if you like, but this comment of mine isn't made in bad faith. It's fair to worry about a global cyberwar and fair to point out that in-person protests are still a viable response to abuse.

gerikson Oct 30, 2022 View on HN

The article describes a team helping a country defend itself against cyberattacks.How is that "pressing the button on a war"?

meowface Jun 17, 2019 View on HN

I don't think it can be related. For one, the US was referring to a cyber sabotage operation, not an attack in the sense of "an attack against a computer system". "Attack" has two very different meanings in this context. SSHing into a server is an attack and shutting down power for a city leading to 20 hospital deaths is an attack.The original statement I could find [0]:>recommending, in response to the "most extreme case" (described as a "catastr

young_unixer Dec 13, 2020 View on HN

It seems like a fair game to me. You can always protect yourself by investing in cyber-security if you don't want to be spied on.It's not like war where innocent people die and a there's a lot of human suffering. It's just a tech race where the nations doing a good job get a deserved advantage without doing direct damage to the population.

croes Feb 25, 2022 View on HN

Don't you think it could make them a target of russia's cyber warfare?

google234123 Jun 21, 2024 View on HN

The US is currently indirectly at war with Russia... I don't understand why you think it makes sense to let someone you are basically at war with operate on your computers

redwards510 Oct 5, 2016 View on HN

Understandable complaints, but isn't the latter just standard procedure in modern cyberwarfare? I think I would be more upset if America didn't have any offensive zero-day weapons to strike with. If we only had capability against foreign companies software, everyone would just buy American and be immune.

Meekro Jul 20, 2024 View on HN

That's a good point -- Russia doesn't want to massively escalate against the US with an all-out cyberattack. I've often wondered if total war against Russia or China would show how fragile our internet-connected infrastructure is, with e.g. important people's bank accounts vanishing with no evidence they ever existed.