US Slavery Civil War

> the side that didn't want to enslave people wonYes

Right, but there was never an asterisk. There was slavery, and a set of ideals which were ultimately incompatible with it, and a bunch of people who wanted to keep profiting from it.No asterisks. Just a disagreement which was settled by a war.

Why shouldn't slavery be up to the states?

This is a misunderstanding of American history. I don't fully know why it was so easy to do away with slavery in other parts of the world (and it mostly happened all within about 100 years of each other), but in the US, slavery was core to the economic system of the south - a slavocracy headed by white slavocrats.The slavocrats would have been happy to have empathy, for the northerners to treat them softly and allow their system to persist. They were (not entirely happily) trading free s

Slavery is not okay because the guys with the bigger guns said so. Read up on the civil war.

Great, so by the logic you just set out, I think it's pretty clear that the "founding pillar" of the United States was a system that allowed us to eventually create laws that would be forced upon the slave states on account of the fact that they had originally agreed to join the Union. In other words, the pragmatic decision to keep mum about slavery (at a time when the abolitionists just didn't have the numbers on their side), is what ultimately led to its downfall after the

In my country, the US, many people once believed that slavery was morally wrong, but still argued against freeing the slaves because they might try to take revenge on the rest of the population. Those fears were, in fact, confirmed on several occasions. And even today, areas with a high population of descendants of slaves fare far worse by almost every economic and social measure.Freeing the slaves (a task which required us to fight the deadliest war in our history) was still the right and ne

I guess it was the main driver of slavery in the US...

It's the same argument the US south made for keeping and perpetuating slavery.

> My understanding of your argument is that because certain nice and lofty things were said in certain founding documents we should look at it as a matter of historical inevitability that practices like slavery and racial discrimination were ultimately abolished.> I just don't buy that, and I think if you try to make this argument for any other country you'll see how silly it is.Pointing to founding principles is but one of a variety of items I've been using to demonst