Persuasion and Debate Strategies

This cluster discusses techniques for effectively convincing others and changing minds in arguments, emphasizing the pitfalls of aggressive approaches, the backfire effect, and the importance of empathy and understanding opponents' perspectives.

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thehardsphere • Jul 6, 2017 • View on HN

This is a very presumptive attitude to take which is not going to convince people on the fence on this topic who don't already agree with you.I suggest that if you want to change minds and improve the status quo, you should engage these people who you find tiresome anyway. Not to persuade them, but the third-parties who will read the discussion and could be persuaded. Or, if that's too much work, simply don't engage, if only so you don't sabotage someone else's effort

WendyTheWillow • Dec 22, 2023 • View on HN

"Because I believe differently than you, there isn't much to discuss." is a terrible way to convince others of your belief.You're presupposing your conclusion and seem completely closed to the idea that you may be wrong.

g3e0 • May 11, 2021 • View on HN

I know this is an inflammatory topic that evokes visceral feelings but.. you should be aware that when you are trying to change someone's mind, aggressive arguing like this is much more likely to make the other person believe what they already believe more strongly (i.e. the opposite of what you want).

paulcole • Jan 29, 2023 • View on HN

Learn how to convince people of your point of view and learn how to know when you should not try to do that.

jkubicek • Apr 28, 2022 • View on HN

You can't reason people out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place

eric-hu • Jan 14, 2025 • View on HN

While I align with your views on this matter, talking to people this way is how you drive them to entrench in the opposite view.

lynx23 • Oct 3, 2024 • View on HN

People in general don't really want to be convinced. The default is to communicate your POV, and maybe listen to the story the other person is telling. But thats about it. The case where you end up thinking "This guy is right, I was always wrong these many years, I need to rethink my approach" is the exception, not the norm. Nobody wants to realize they have been deceived, either by themselves or by others. Given that, arguments are doomed to be non-productive most of the tim

inopinatus • Aug 3, 2013 • View on HN

The problem might be you: are you trying to convince random unknown people on the Internet to change their minds? Absent knowledge of their true motivations, beliefs or biases? Don't bother with "nicely" but don't be critical either; just be factual - people always hear what they want to hear, and that's not actually your problem.It is an order of magnitude more efficient to simply move on to the next person, because there are always more people.

asgard1024 • Oct 18, 2015 • View on HN

I think you're assuming bad faith here. Of course some people who don't want to be convinced. But I think there are many people who engage in debates and are open to be convinced by counterarguments. Or they just joined the topic and just have naive questions. After all, it's in our interest to understand reality.

rapjr9 • Nov 25, 2024 • View on HN

People have ego's. Instead of saying they are wrong, adopt their perspective and help them discover your perspective. They may like your perspective and adopt it as their own reasoned opinion, lead them to it, and then they may adopt it and own it. Sometimes you'll find they have unstated reasons for choices, find workarounds for them. This is a basic human skill everyone should understand.