Entrapment and Conspiracy Debates

The cluster focuses on discussions debating whether law enforcement sting operations, providing tools for crimes, or selling to criminals constitute entrapment, conspiracy, or criminal facilitation, often referencing mens rea and specific cases like drug deals or exploits.

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Sargos Aug 24, 2020 View on HN

I don't think it's entrapment as you were already seeding the file and they didn't influence you to do that.

eloff Apr 7, 2021 View on HN

Could be a case to be made that it's entrapment.

Doxin Jan 4, 2024 View on HN

Forbidden but not disabled either. Sounds like entrapment to me.

mike_hearn Aug 11, 2025 View on HN

Dubious; seems like if you know you're selling exploits to criminals you could be done on a conspiracy charge.

rtkwe Sep 23, 2021 View on HN

This isn't entrapment. Entrapment is when the government forces you to commit a crime not when the government provides all the tools required to commit a crime without any coercion. Unless you can show you were pressured/forced to do the crime by the government it's assumed you would have done it the same if the situation arose without the government being the other party, because you already did and presumably you didn't know they were cops.

ryanlol Jul 27, 2015 View on HN

Not necessarily. Knowingly selling to someone that'll use it for a crime, probably.

Capricorn2481 Oct 11, 2024 View on HN

Entrapment would be if they encouraged people to break the law who otherwise wouldn't be pre-disposed to doing that. It's a fairly difficult thing to prove, but nothing they talk about here rises anywhere close to that. They just made their own coin.

endtime Oct 21, 2009 View on HN

Would this qualify as entrapment?

jonnathanson Dec 30, 2013 View on HN

I'm surprised nobody's gone after them for entrapment. IANAL, but my understanding is that the definition of entrapment is inducing someone to commit a crime that he wouldn't have been likely to commit otherwise. In the case of convincing a mentally disabled teenager to run drugs and guns, the shoe seems to fit.

evgen Mar 12, 2018 View on HN

A conspiracy is an agreement between two or more persons to engage jointly in an unlawful or criminal act, or an act that is innocent in itself but becomes unlawful when done by the combination of actors. In this case the unlawful act is to knowingly participate in a scheme to violate various drug laws regarding the importation and distribution of controlled substances. In addition to the evidence of mens rea given there are several overt acts (e.g. agreeing to remote wipe a phone that was, at