US Labor Union Violence

The cluster discusses the violent history of labor disputes in the US, including company goon squads, Pinkertons, and events like the Ludlow Massacre and Homestead Strike that led to modern labor laws.

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jonnycomputer Jan 23, 2018 View on HN

The US has forgotten just how rough those labor disputes were. I mean, for example, just how roughly treated striking workers were treated by company goon squads. Infamously, the Ludlow Massacre of 1913.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre

nerdponx Aug 6, 2023 View on HN

For anyone who doesn't get the joke: The USA once had a strong and popular left wing that arose out of the brutal working conditions of the 19th century industrial revolution, sometimes going as far as open armed conflict against mercenary groups hired by their employers. The pendulum swung strongly the other way over the 20th century, undoing the literal blood sweat and tears that went into securing basic workers' rights. Now we have to do it all over again, and it's funny to see

fzeroracer Feb 10, 2023 View on HN

It's funny that you complain about the 'ideological narratives of victimhood' while directly crafting a narrative where poor companies are victims to the vicious labor force. That said, you seem unfamiliar with the history of unionization and why these laws came into place. I recommend looking up what the Pinkertons did in order to stop companies being 'victimized' by workers.

matthewdgreen Mar 29, 2021 View on HN

My understanding is that early unions (prior to the New Deal and labor law reform) didn't have much legal protection, and instead resorted to massive strikes. Companies fought back with firings and sometimes violence. Over time labor laws were built up because having major portions of your economy at war does not lead to a stable and productive society. As we disassemble those laws, we'll probably learn why they were created.

lovich Jun 23, 2022 View on HN

That is a critique that can be applied to America as well. There was a long time period where strikes were met with government violence until the labor force went back to work.Examples:https://listverse.com/2017/09/14/10-tragic-times-the-us-gove...

orbifold Feb 2, 2015 View on HN

In the good old days they also exploited their workers a fair amount, hired private security to break strikes (e.g. Homestead strike). Nowadays the most profitable businesses need nearly no unskilled labor or if they do, it is usually the subcontractors that mistreat their employees.

btown Feb 25, 2021 View on HN

The US has had an "us vs. them" mindset towards unions since the 19th century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_union_busting_in_th...Back then, titans of industry hired Pinkertons to attack and kill striking workers. Now, they buy media companies and tech companies that are designed to incentivize viewers to violently threaten the

Animats Mar 19, 2019 View on HN

If you think they were "given space", read up on the history of the labor movement in the US.IATSE Local 728 has an article about their own history that doesn't gloss over the bad stuff.[1][1] https://www.iatse728.org/about-us/history/the-war-for-warner...

rtkwe Oct 16, 2025 View on HN

On the other hand what's more American than eroding workers rights through coordination between rich business owners? Granted there's fewer machine guns on trains involved than in some periods. [0][0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludlow_Massacre and several other incidents.

Classic Enron, social Darwinian clone type.Too many people forget the pissing in Coke bottles fiascos.Also, people forget how bad workplace conditions can get, i.e., when Carnegie's Pinkerton snipers opened fire on Homestead union steel workers in the massacre of 1892.The US middle-class had it best post-War when unions were strong between 1947 and 1965. Now, there is about an 1930's-level of unionization that is declining without any floor in sight.Socialism in the US is a