Police Bad Apples Debate

The cluster centers on debates about whether most police officers are good with a few 'bad apples' or if systemic issues like corruption, lack of accountability, and institutional protection make broad criticisms of US policing valid.

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Madmallard Dec 21, 2023 View on HN

This is a bad take. The police are a lot more problematic than you seem to think

zimpenfish Oct 5, 2017 View on HN

Because not all cops are up to the job.

mindslight Jun 17, 2022 View on HN

If you want to get to the truth of a matter, you need to hold conflicting thoughts in your head at the same time. Most cops are doing a good job, and most people they interact with are criminals. The system allows all of their priors to run amok, unjustly harming everyone they interact with. The system/union protects the bad apples that go even further, who spoil the bunch and gives the profession a bad image. By holding one side blameless, you are contributing to the ongoing destruction of

mistermann Oct 21, 2017 View on HN

I don't know about everyone else, but until they start to step up and turn in the bad apples, I will personally continue to make generalizations. These people are police officers, it's their job to uphold the law.

I've got a great friend who's in the police service. They aren't all mediocre, but there's an awful lot of them and bad apples rightly get a lot of attention. I think the problem with policing is that it's been disproven that it's just a few bad apples, and that they forget the adage is that a single bad apple spoils the bunch. There's also very little public accountability for bad policing, which is the opposite of what it should be, punishments should be publ

bilbo0s Mar 3, 2024 View on HN

No they don't.We are free here.These cops acted without justification, then committed a crime to cover up their unjustified actions by attesting to multiple demonstrable falsehoods.The HN User you are responding to is stretching to make the situation seem reasonable in the US. It is not reasonable in the US and we will continue to demonstrate its unreasonableness to officers who can't seem to understand. We will do so through everything from disciplinary actions to docked pay

US jails are in the same spirit, punish not rehabilitate /work with them. This is ingrained in the laws and public opinion that cops have a hard job ((they do) and we must give them all the leeway needed to do their job. Time to change the laws a bit so they are held responsible a lot more for pushing the envelope.

beatgammit Aug 18, 2019 View on HN

I wish we would put more effort into policing the police, but for some reason, cops seem to stick up for each other even when a crime may have been committed.I believe that most cops are good, but the position definitely attracts people who like violence/power. I don't know the solution here, but there has to be a way to help good cops get the recognition they deserve without forcing them to betray their fellow officers to eliminate the bad.

giraffe_lady Mar 24, 2023 View on HN

I believe that "there are no good cops" is a reasonable and useful shorthand for a complex situation, yes.Capricious violence, racism, and corruption are so endemic to american policing that every cop is either an active participant, or aware of specific instances and complicit in this lawlessness. The internal culture of policing enforces this through peer pressure, hazing, and threats and violence if necessary. Good people can become police but they can't stay police: they ul

gamblor956 Feb 26, 2022 View on HN

does it anyway you risk death by doing anything that obstructs them.This is simply FUD being spread by someone who knows absolutely nothing about what he's talking about. Police in the U.S. aren't all like the ones you "see on TV." That's the 0.1% of the bad cops being used to define all cops.Unless you're okay with everyone thinking that all programmers are sacks of shit because of the 0.1% that are cryptocurrency scam artists?