Heroin Addiction Debate
The cluster discusses the addictiveness and risks of heroin compared to prescription opioids, alcohol, and other drugs, including personal experiences, functional addicts, and arguments for or against regulation and legalization.
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Look at the data on those who have chronic pain: they are prescribed opiates at high dosages daily (equivalent to extreme abuse), and doctors think this is acceptable. Heroin is essentially just an opiate. They do not show effects as bad as life-long alcohol users, nor obviously abusers. A lot of socially acceptable alcohol use would be called abuse if society was fair about it.
Look what happened with the tobacco or the alcohol regulation. It looks like most of the people got addicted to smoking pretty quickly. I can't see a single good thing if they would switch to heroin. I believe China had the opium legalised and it didn't turn to be a good idea either.
I've shared my experiences a number of times, and you'd be amazed how many other programmers have contacted me to express their situation. "Functional" addicts are far more numerous than common knowledge would have you believe, but the stigma is so great that it's something that remains rather impossible to find out.Heres an interesting fact. About 23% of people who use heroin (not opiates in general, heroin specifically) become addicts[0]. I've always found that
I've never used anything stronger than caffeine and alcohol myself, so this is all from reading and some limited experiences with people who have used drugs.For starters, injection is not the only way to take heroin. It's also smoked, snorted and sniffed. But you are right - heroin is rarely the first drug of choice for anyone. It's not glamorous, and it has a "bad image". Thankfully that reduces recruitment. However once people have tried it, the "natural incli
Stop treating Heroin like heroin. That's the very reason why we have so many opiate addicts. As a former opiate user who almost fell down the rabbit hole (unfortunately, my brother eventually did fall down that hole), by demonizing heroin, you set it apart from other opiates like Codiene, Vicodin, and Percocet/Oxycontin. It's not any different from those drugs. I found out the hard way. All of those drugs are opiates and if you were to snort heroin and if you were to snort
people love heroin too.that's why rules around potentially addictive things are needed.
That's true tho, isn't it? Heroin also helped millions of people against pain without getting everyone addicted before we found better opiods for daily use. There are also people using heroin as party drug without high risk of addiction (even thought that may not be a lot)
> Not so much with heroin.Do you have a source for that?Some quick googling found this study which suggests it happens [1] http://www.jrf.org.uk/system/files/1859354254.pdf
No its on the addict / per user.Its not because almost no one takes heroin and that it kis no one that its not dangerous.How dumb is that reasoning..
Though I don't have any stats ready on how many heroin users end up as addicts that actually hurt their health, and how many recover later, you don't seem to have it either. Before we have some kind of numbers, I don't think discussing this can lead anywhere constructive.I'm pretty sure that most users of nicotine (as smoked tobacco or in electronic cigarettes) get physiologically addicted pretty quickly, and in a pretty hard way. Though this is inconvenient to them, it us