US Afghanistan Failure

Imagine fucking up Afghanistan (and Iraq and Vietnam etc etc) so amazingly hard yet still saying this lol.

Apologies, I was thinking of Iraq, not Afghanistan.

Instead of demonizing them, think a little, inform yourself and try to understand why they are doing.Afghanistan was at the center of multiple proxy wars between America and Russia, all because of America feeling threatened by communism. The US then helped fundamentalists get into leader positions which further threw the country into disarray. Then to top it all off they started another beautiful war to look for Bin Laden.I haven't looked into it in a while, but maybe the US still is

The US didn’t “conquer” Afghanistan. It was fighting a nonstop insurgency that obviously we couldn’t sustain for another 20+ years as evidenced by the fact we didn’t sustain it for another 20+ years. Losing political will is quite literally “losing,” and we left and the Taliban now gets to (actually) rule their country how they want to.

Afghanistan is a tough nut. US failed there as well.

Absolutely, the neighbor Afghanistan is an example. US tried so hard to enforce democracy but in the end it didn't work. Western Media might say it was unplanned and chaotic evacuation by US but large swath of population supported Taliban and welcomed them.

Why this comparison instead of USSR and Afghanistan?

Allegedly the “government” of Afghanistan (its really just been a sham and a U.S. puppet state for the last 20 years) didn’t want this to happen because they wanted to avoid demoralizing the Afghan army which…subsequently refused to fight anyways. Or at least that’s how I understood some of what Biden said earlier today.For all we know that was the idea of our own military or intelligence community & now we are conveniently placing the blame for our mistakes on a government that no longer

Replace "Ukraine" with "Afghanistan" and "Russia" with "United States" might make the question easier. We have the benefit of hindsight there.

Nobody can "beat Afghanistan" because forcing people who have no interest in running a country the way the rest of the world runs a country to do so a black hole for money and lives.There's a lesson about wars of occupation with ill-defined objectives in there.