Generational Work Ethic Debate
The cluster centers on debates about why younger generations (millennials, Gen Z) are reluctant to take low-status, grueling entry-level jobs, with older commenters criticizing entitlement and work ethic while younger ones cite economic hardships like debt, housing costs, and job market changes.
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Peoples priorities change over time. And young people don't really understand how much the low status and grueling grind they are getting into sucks.And then you are 28, already in debt, having wasted a decade without a decent career to fall back on.Also, people tend to expect positive outcomes for themselves. "It is going to be hard..." yeah, sure gramps. But I'm different.
The younger generation need jobs the most, I think it's a dangerous precedent to set if there is no longer an expectation they can find a job. We're already seeing a breakdown in youth culture, attitudes to life, etc.. I know because I am part of that generation, all I see around me are people that believe there's no opportunity without some serious luck.In the end, older people are worked to death and younger people struggle to progress past Walmart (and no, a degree or a prog
First of all, what manifold said is exactly what I have said to people for years. I am 24 years old and the mindset of you any all others like you is completely ridiculous. All this does is hurt our whole society. Who do you think is going to take care of the place you live when you retire? Other retired people? You know the answer and so do I. I am looking for work currently and while I have not been looking long I see that there is a problem and it is that people don't want to hire entry
I'm sorry but that is nothing but a bunch of ignorant hand-waving. Whenever something like the quarterlife crisis is brought up, there is a strong current of thinking that goes something like "These people should just get over themselves"Fact is, there are a number of huge factors working against young people these days. Consider the following:- You can't get a decent job without a decent education. It used to be that a highschool graduate could get a job that paid enough to support a fami
You can tell who was born with a silver spoon in their mouth by their response to this. The "why can't we just make all jobs great forever" responses crack me up. It's classic virtue signalling by liberal elites: demand that life be a perfect fantasy land for everyone, then put forward zero realistic proposals to achieve it. Doesn't matter that it will never happen because you've already gained your social capital with your circle of people who think and act just li
I have heard this ever so often that kids (read society) will figure it out and this-is-all-part-of-the-evolution song. Not to be a pessimistic parade on this outlook, but this attitude is not helpful at all. It feels as if the burden of proof is left on someone who has no mental model of this emerging world to figure their livelihood on.Sure, people say this is how they felt in their teens too, but the wealth inequality now makes many avenues of income less worthwhile.Kids might still fig
Boomers look surprised, and I think they fail to see the reality of current times. Decades ago, an university teacher, could afford to buy a home for his family , not too far from where he/she/* worked. Nowadays, even with FAANG salaries you can't buy a decent size home for your family even in a "30 minutes drive" radio from where your offices are. Imagine other professions who are not paid as much. People see through the "hustle mentality" grindset, usually on
I think there’s a bit of “kids these days, amirite?” from the older folks who manage & own companies. As they look back with nostalgia on their own early careers, puritan work ethic, etc, they maybe don’t see that life doesn’t have to be like that…and certainly not when the rewards they got (cheap college, career stability, nice house, two cars) aren’t there any more.It’s a little ironic that this older generation is denigrating young adults, since they were the hippies and gen X whose p
When you were young, things were different. Colleges cost less, capital was weaker compared to workers, computers haven't yet taken over as many jobs as today. Plus, we have the biggest financial crisis in the past 80 years. Still, I'm sure you can find many people in their 40s, 50s that are much less successful than you, doing rote, unexciting jobs, living paycheck to paycheck. Not everyone can be a manager, business owner, investment banker, lawyer or doctor - you need garbagemen, fa
1. It's fairly clear a decent portion of the 20 somethings coming out of school now are entitled and don't work hard. 2. It's fairly clear that a lot of the 30 and 40 somethings out there came out of school, gave up their souls and worked for the man and regret it--in other words they weren't entitled enough. 3. It's fairly clear this story has nothing to do with the folks reading Hacker News who are a self-selected group of entrepreneurial folks who are hard working and self-motivated.Pleas