NIMBY Housing Opposition
The cluster discusses long-time residents' resistance to new housing developments and density increases in desirable neighborhoods, driven by concerns over property values, quality of life, congestion, and displacement from gentrification, contrasted with calls for more supply to improve affordability.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa - are you saying that long time property owners should have a say in how their neighborhood and city develop? And that we shouldn’t blindly appease a bunch of people who have just moved to town chasing the almighty dollar and are pissed they can’t rent a luxury appt or purchase a home in one of the most expensive cities in America?!! You do realize you’re logged into HN, don’t you?
Not everybody wants new tenements in their nice neighborhood.
You're ignoring the crux of the issue here.The issue is not "I want to move to San Francisco", the issue is "I've lived in this neighborhood my entire life, and now I can't afford to any longer." Let's not even get into how expensive it is to actually move, all of the complication and complexity involved in moving a family with children to a different school district, all of the paperwork that needs updated... it's nontrivial.You shouldn't
I'd wager that purely economic concerns ("oh no, my property values!") are only a part of it. I think some of them don't want "temporary" people (i.e., renters) living in their neighborhood, or high-density buildings blocking their view, or an influx of neighbors increasing traffic and decreasing parking. Or change, in general, from a status quo that fits them just fine.
"That kind of crap" are generally people who have lived here significantly longer than he has and have been priced out due to factors not under their control. He doesn't care if _their_ problems are solved, only that _his_ problem is solved. It's a fairly disgusting attitude.
As a carpetbagger in Southern California, I totally understand the resistance to people like myself moving in. It's not greedy to wish you could maintain the same standard of living and advocate for policies that protect it.It may be unrealistic and have huge costs, but it's not malicious. I'd hate it if I moved into my neighborhood 15 years ago in a low density unit or single family home, and now have to deal with nonstop construction, noise, traffic, and general overcrowding
Unfortunately wealthy established homeowners don't want more people to near to them so they vote against any and all change.Yes, combined with useful idiot "anti-gentrification" activists who have convinced themselves that the concept of supply and demand is a capitalist myth.
"We" wasn't big government. It was a million homeowners who decided that the neighborhood they moved into should be frozen in amber forever. Everyone wants housing to be cheap but also for their property values to rise onto infinity. They push back against any attempt to change this and then complain about the inevitable results.
People currently living there don't see it as a "housing crisis". They see it as "too many people coming here, trying to change our single family house peaceful residential neighborhood into bigger buildings".So "how about limiting influx of new people / new development?""Sure, let's do that"I understand newcomers may disagree with that approach, out of understandable self interest.But implying people currently living there are c
There's no right for anyone to live in any city. So why should I be cheering for a bunch of rich people coming in and forcing out people who have been living there for most of their lives?