Women Low-Pay Jobs Debate
The cluster discusses reasons why female-dominated professions like teaching and nursing pay less than male-dominated ones, debating factors such as personal preferences, societal pressures, labor supply increases, and discrimination.
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The idea that those professions are lower-paid because they are mostly female is pretty strange. It would require a vast and secret conspiracy. The scandal would dwarf the secret Silicon Valley agreement (involving Apple, Google, Adobe, Intel) by many orders of magnitude.You can make a reasonable argument that the causation goes the other way, with men giving higher priority to money when choosing a career. This makes sense, because a male's career has a huge impact on dating success.
When you say that women are "more agreeable" than men and "tend to care about people" more than men, you should consider that there is a social expectation that women have these qualities. You should also consider why the link between "lower paying jobs" and "jobs that women tend to choose" exists in the first place, and that "jobs that people of a certain gender tend to choose" is a self-reinforcing notion that limits your options no matt
Female dominated professions, on average, have more time off, more flexible hours, significant social components, less physically dangerous, etc. Maybe these things matter, on average, more to women than men. Why should we expect women to have the exact same distribution of preferences as men? Why are we accepting the frame that the only thing that matters is salary?If women choose their profession based on factors other than salary, it is a little strange to analogize them to black people un
> We've decided to pay less for the jobs that women typically take.Correlation is not causation.Maybe men are more likely to pursue stressful, higher paying jobs because of social pressure to be breadwinners.Not many women want to marry a house-husband.
It seems it has to do with what jobs women are filling. You dont see women moving to construction trades and the like in any large number.
It's not some conspiracy to pay women less. It works like this:1. More people (women in this case) enter the profession.2. Due to increased labor supply, pay starts to drop.3. Men, placing a relatively higher priority on high pay, begin to avoid the profession.That last point is sort of interesting. Men are strongly associated with their careers and level of pay. This is most of their status. It has a tremendous impact in the dating market. It is a key factor in the likelihood o
I'm not seeing much of a push for women there, but more of a push of men out of there, or satisfying different criteria.The behavioral stereotype that I'm seeing is that when a man considers a job that they might like, that has some socially acceptable status (teacher is considered a respectable profession compared to running a garbage truck, at least for an educated middle class family) but that pays lousy, then they more often than not discard that option as unacceptable and taboo
Way to spin it: more evidence for the wage inequality between man and female caused by the patriarchy which forces woman into low paying jobs and men into high paying ones. The few man who were willing to accept a low paying job were actively redirected towards higher paying ones.
It's subtly different, IMO. One possibility is that men are influencing women (via patriarchy) to choose less profitable fields & careers. The other is that women are influencing men (via their sexual preferences) to choose more profitable careers.An analogy would be beauty. It's quite obvious that it's the women who care more about their appearance (due to male sexual preferences) rather than men caring less.
Why is it sexist to suggest that women might prefer different careers from men?