Copyright Infringement vs Theft

The cluster centers on debates distinguishing copyright infringement and piracy from literal theft or stealing, arguing that unauthorized copying does not deprive the owner of the original item unlike physical theft.

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purplerabbit May 12, 2024 View on HN

Stealing and piracy are differentStealing removes something — nothing is removed hereBut maybe this semantic battle is lost because most people make this equivocation(Not saying piracy is necessarily OK)

PeterStuer May 19, 2024 View on HN

Probably copyright infringement in some jurisdictions, but it's not 'stealing'. Let's not confuse terms with specific meaning.

ddingus Jan 1, 2023 View on HN

It is not theft.You really need to use the right word, and that word is infringement.Theft requires someone somewhere be denied something they own and that does not happen when an unauthorized copy is performed.Using the right words might lead us to better laws we all can live with. Starting with the wrong ones will continue to hurt everyone.

YPPH Jul 7, 2025 View on HN

"Stealing" isn't an apt term here. Stealing a thing permanently deprives the owner of the thing. What you're describing is copyright infringement, not stealing.In this context, stealing is often used as a pejorative term to make piracy sound worse than it is. Except for mass distribution, piracy is often regarded as a civil wrong, and not a crime.

JamesBarney Apr 22, 2022 View on HN

It's not stealing, it's copyright infringement. If someone steals my car I no longer have my car. If someone copies my car my car loses values because there is now one extra copy of my car floating around.

Fnoord Mar 4, 2020 View on HN

Copyright infringement is simply not the same as theft since with theft the original owner loses their copy (one can look up both terms on Wikipedia for details). Any claim they are the very same with a straight face is dishonest at best.

csallen Aug 15, 2024 View on HN

Minor nitpick, but he was not stealing, he was infringing copyrights.To "steal" is to take another's rivalrous property without permission, such that you now possess it, but they no longer have it.To "infringe a copyright" is to make and distribute a copy of another person's work without their permission.Both illegal, but very different things. What targets of copyright infringement are losing is not their property, but the potential extra profit they could

theDoug Oct 27, 2011 View on HN

It's not taking. There is a subtle but _clear_ reason it's considered infringement and not theft.

MaysonL Aug 8, 2018 View on HN

Copyright infringement isn't theft: it's copyright infringement.

cf498 Jun 13, 2019 View on HN

Theft is the wrong word, you are looking at copyright infringement. Not a moral judgment but simply the wrong term. There are no additional costs created at the producers site. The bars are having private licenses instead of those for public viewing. A missus of the GPL is also not theft but copyright infringement.