Steve Jobs Apple Return

The cluster discusses Steve Jobs' return to Apple through the NeXT acquisition, his pivotal role in rescuing the company from 1990s collapse, and debates over myths, decisions like killing the Newton, and historical what-ifs.

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tdeck Feb 5, 2021 View on HN

I just ran across this talk where Jobs basically makes that claim:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0lvMgMrNDlgHe says it was also because he liked apples, and it was ahead of Atari in the phone book.

Apple very nearly catered. Nobody would be quoting Job had that happened (NeXT was dying too which is why Apple could buy it). There is a crazy amount of survivor bias here.

neverdied Oct 23, 2023 View on HN

apple killed it after Jobs had a hissy fit

4ad Jan 24, 2014 View on HN

No, because the parent poster is right. Look into the history of Apple in the '90s, how Jobs came back, NeXT etc.

AlbertCory Jul 3, 2023 View on HN

You fell for the myth. Stanford explodes it:https://web.stanford.edu/dept/SUL/sites/mac/parc.htmlI was there. This is mostly correct. Jobs didn't "steal" it; he finally believed what his own people had been trying to tell him.

DLWormwood Jan 15, 2009 View on HN

> It's like saying Steve Jobs approved the new line of Ipods being Scottish tartan with the user interface outsourced to Microsift.I know you're trying to be funny, but soon after Jobs' return to Apple after the "NeXT exile," things really did seem that surreal for a bit...http://images.google.com/images?q=flower%20power%20imac<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_for_Mac" rel="nof

DaoVeles Sep 16, 2024 View on HN

Absolutely. A part of that would have been Steve's legendary ability to convince folks to make the move to Apple even when they had options that looked better at the time. Another part was seeing the potential of those already in the company, another part was just dumb luck.I believe Job's was providing this perspective more in the late 2000's after he had been through the whole Apple exile/Next thing.

NuggyMcNugget Apr 26, 2017 View on HN

Jobs without next? Would not have happend. Without Jobs, Apple would have been long gone.

pjmlp Jan 13, 2019 View on HN

Had Steve Jobs not brought Apple back to its roots, and there wouldn't be a company to bash about.I remember how it looked after the amazing Copland launch.

epolanski Nov 17, 2023 View on HN

Facts are facts.The company was dying.OpenAI is not.Also, it's probably you underestimating the impact of OpenAI, if anything, or the entrepreneurial career of Altman.Also, you probably don't know that but..the Apple 1 and 2, were designed by Wozniak, not Jobs, Jobs hated them. He had no such impact nor cv you think it had in 1985 and sugarcoating it with second phase Jobs.