Automation Job Impact

Jobs are down due to automation, nobody's putting that genie back in the bottle :)

guess their jobs were just automatted away!

seems that as automation has increased bullshit jobs have too, so that future seems very plausible to me.

Being treated like garbage and a job inherently being shitty aren’t the same thing. People seem to confuse that.All this is doing is driving automation at a faster pace and the people who once did the jobs will now have something new to complain about when they have no job available at all in 10 years

Automation does not reduce available labor - it reduces only the number of specific workplaces available, but since it frees the resources by doing it and produces more value, this value can - and will - be turned into buying work of somebody else. Maybe instead of buying services of a clerk, the owner of the company would buy services of a Ford dealer and Ford workers by buying a new car. So what? I have no reasons to prefer clerk's job for Ford dealer's job - the only difference is that people

You need to go to the next level. People automate things not to eliminate jobs (that's not the whole point), but to save money. So now the product is cheaper.So the buyers of the product have extra money to spend - which opens whole new fields of products and services for them, which will (at first) be run by humans and have jobs.It's a cycle that repeated many many times in history. It's just happening faster now. So if you want to always be employable (and you are not part

see my comment above. the job market these people are supposedly propping up is going to get wiped out by automation in a few decades, thus only exacerbating the problem.

Yeah. I think most people in HN don't view automation as a bad force. But we do have to note there's no guarantee that jobs will come back for EVERYONE and that over time the demand for human labor won't decrease. Most people already don't concern themselves with growing/hunting food, obtaining water, warming/cooling themselves, etc. We've moved on to other things, freed up by advances in technology. Perhaps the current "busywork" of blogging, account

Why are you so convinced that it's not happening ?Each time something, which used to be done by humans, is done by a machine, that time spent doing that something is no longer payed to a human and only a fraction goes to the makers of the machine - that's the whole point of automation - reduce costs and increase productivity.It doesn't lead to [more] humans being payed more money.I think intuitively it makes sense, but coming up with undeniable proof is quit

What if it's automation and not people being productive?