Ad Networks and Publishers

The cluster focuses on the dynamics of online advertising, including why publishers rely on ad networks like Google due to trust issues with advertisers, challenges in direct ad sales, and incentives for middlemen that prevent alternatives.

📉 Falling 0.4x Startups & Business
2,900
Comments
20
Years Active
5
Top Authors
#3492
Topic ID

Activity Over Time

2007
20
2008
33
2009
55
2010
138
2011
117
2012
102
2013
68
2014
137
2015
247
2016
326
2017
282
2018
215
2019
300
2020
203
2021
187
2022
113
2023
145
2024
99
2025
105
2026
8

Keywords

e.g IMHO FANNG BuzzFeed OK AdOps FB CPM DoubleClick AND publishers ad ads advertisers ad networks publisher networks google advertising advertiser

Sample Comments

Mythbusters Sep 28, 2012 View on HN

what if the ad network has an incentive to not do it?

ENGNR Mar 24, 2019 View on HN

I imagine that's only because FB/Google want to protect their distribution, and users run ads directly with them. Smaller publishers have no choice but to give it all up to the ad networks

brown9-2 Jul 24, 2015 View on HN

Because the ad networks don't completely trust the publishers.

_hyn3 Dec 19, 2021 View on HN

Why is it up to the advertisers and publishers?

I don't think it's very surprising. Advertisers won't let publishers serve ads directly because that requires trust in publishers to not misrepresent stats like impressions and real views. I don't know how you'd solve that trust problem when publishers are actually incentivized to cheat advertisers.

hexane360 Apr 25, 2019 View on HN

Google doesn't have to replace publisher's ads with their own. They could just replace them with ads going through their market.

phillipseamore Jun 30, 2021 View on HN

The advertisers are "losing" money but the middlemen (ad networks, publishers etc) are making money. So no, they'll never stop.

manigandham Jun 7, 2015 View on HN

Most publishers (like the long-tail) cant sell or moderate every single ad. No advertiser these days picks a single site to run on, rather they purchase based on audiences.Instead, publishers will blacklist certain advertisers but for the most part it's very automated based on context, behavior targeting, and other factors. Also even if a publisher is large enough to do direct deals, they still use the networks to "backfill" the remaining inventory because they would rather mak

dkarras May 26, 2018 View on HN

I don't think it is a false dilemma. The problem is about the difference between the magnitude of revenue generated by the proposed methods. Both for publishers AND people interested in advertising products.Tasteful banners are nice but tracking the performance of such ads is very hard. Ad business is really cut-throat. When you visit a site, there literally are multiple ad networks / advertisers bidding for a spot in front of you, with real money, based on the site, your location a

BenS Jun 9, 2010 View on HN

Also a way of sticking it to web publishers who collect roughly 70% of the money from google-placed ads and 100% of direct ads