DOCX OOXML Openness

The cluster debates whether Microsoft Office formats like DOCX and OOXML are truly open standards, their compatibility with LibreOffice and ODF, and improvements over legacy .DOC formats.

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chaosfox Apr 6, 2016 View on HN

except docx is an open format..

typicalhn Feb 3, 2020 View on HN

What you're missing is nobody serious uses anything but docx.

ZoFreX May 15, 2012 View on HN

The format didn't need to be reversed, it's (almost) open. Additionally there are plugins for the older versions of Office to let them work with the newer format, and it's much much easier to write tools to do things with Word files now - just crack one open and take a look (it's a .zip file full of XML files).

gizmo686 Oct 17, 2012 View on HN

Document formats don't seem to be a problem any more. Back when MS switched to .docx people I knew continued using .doc to maintain compatibilty with old versions. I actually got support for the 2007 formats before most of my windows using friends. As long as you change your default file format to the MS one, I don't think you'll run into issues on that front.

cookiecaper Apr 8, 2013 View on HN

My experience is that open-source implementations like LibreOffice have much better support for the older file formats. docx/xlsx/etc may be a "zip of XML files" but it doesn't really matter if the original data is stored as XML or a blob when it comes to the end user's rendering experience -- it's about how the system can interpret that data. And the interpretations of the new file formats are mostly severely lacking.

creshal Oct 20, 2015 View on HN

OOXML. It's open! It's XML! That's like twice as universally compatible! /s

emj Oct 14, 2018 View on HN

ODF - Open document format, it is not perfect but a lot better than Microsofts formats.

bhandziuk Jan 30, 2015 View on HN

True, these are very open standards. Microsoft even provides a pretty good xml editing tool to inspect a docx of xlsx or whatever once it is made to see how it is made https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/office/bb448854(v=o...

Andrew_nenakhov Jul 10, 2020 View on HN

OnlyOffice have shot themselves in the foot when made it use MSO file format to store data. Should have build on ODT

rplnt Nov 19, 2012 View on HN

You are talking about past. And here's a good read for you http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2008/02/19.htmlIt's much better nowadays with docx format that is open and is used by default (for a few years).