Self-Driving Car Safety

The cluster debates the safety of self-driving cars compared to human drivers, including accident statistics, ethical dilemmas like the trolley problem, public reactions to failures, and overall societal acceptance of risks.

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jayd16 Jul 25, 2019 View on HN

Driving a car is indeed a monetized feature of cars.He's saying even if a self driving car is more dangerous than a human, a human driven car is still dangerous and we all accept that. So its not about whether the deaths were preventable. We accept human driven cars therefore we accept preventable death.We're now forced to consider the fact that this is an argument about the fuzzy math of risk vs reward as we have crossed the threshold of preventable deaths long ago.

Andrew_nenakhov Jan 18, 2022 View on HN

Average human is actually quite terrible in driving cars, as evidenced by the global death toll numbering in dosens of thousands every year. Even halving this number would be a win, losing a lot of people to such edge cases. However, the nature of the problem would not allow for it, because every death from a self-driving car will get excessive coverage and public outrage, and people will prefer losing far more people to human errors than fewer to computer errors.

sowbug Sep 7, 2018 View on HN

The number of question marks and exclamation points in your original post does not fit the relative severity of the issue you are describing. If you used that many question marks to describe a car with an imperfect auto-braking system, I can't imagine how many you'd use to describe a car with a human braking system. In the U.S., those humans fail to brake, with consequences, 2.5 million times a year. <a href="https://www.scmitchell.com/blog/2017/may/rear-e

sorokod Aug 24, 2018 View on HN

Isnt There is no safe level of driving one of the main motivations for self driving cars?

sizzle Apr 30, 2019 View on HN

Similar to self driving cars improving car accident death rates over human drivers. Great point.

barrkel May 2, 2019 View on HN

I think it's deeply irresponsible to create a device which can drive in 90 or 95% of scenarios. It's just a way to fool humans into killing themselves.

cr0sh Aug 28, 2017 View on HN

I will loosely paraphrase something I heard Sebastian Thrun remark on this situation (commonly known in philosophy as "the trolley problem"):1) such a situation happening is extremely rare (more so in the classic example of the trolley problem)and2) regardless of its possibility, if we are able to reduce the number of fatal and injurious accidents caused by automobiles by half, in the United States alone, such tragedies should not stop us from doing soFor some reason, peopl

djmips Jul 21, 2022 View on HN

Not to derail but the lack of control of self driving cars could be one reason there is a big reaction when someone dies as a result of an accident.

zhanwei Feb 4, 2016 View on HN

I think it could be predictability of a self-driving car in an accident that is making people uncomfortable and accident rate does not capture that. For e.g., an accident might means hitting a barrier, a human realizes the terrible situation and will swerve away from the cliff behind the barrier. But what would a self-driving car do? Its sensor might be too damaged to realize the dire consequence.

martin_a May 13, 2019 View on HN

Somewhere someone in a self-driving car is dying because of you...;-)