US vs Europe Tuition Costs

Comments contrast the high costs and accessibility issues of US higher education with free or low-cost university systems in Europe (e.g., Germany, Scandinavia), noting trade-offs like stricter admissions and vocational tracks.

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uberswe β€’ Jun 28, 2021 β€’ View on HN

This is more of a US problem. In the EU much of higher education is very cheap or free. Some students even get paid a small amount of money and have access to loans with low interested and great terms so that it's easier to focus on school and everyone is on a more even playing field.

chrisandchris β€’ Jul 29, 2023 β€’ View on HN

Welcome to Europe (where college/university is "free" for every resident)?It's not like it's not feasible.

semajian β€’ May 13, 2019 β€’ View on HN

I guess the most prominent counterexample is Germany, which has basically free tuition. They also have different kinds of high schools preparing people for universities or trades, not everyone needs to go to university.

ots β€’ Apr 3, 2016 β€’ View on HN

There is a fix for #5; get a foreign degree. The college education at most European universities is free or almost free. Hey, at some of them they pay you to study. :)They are not as highly regarded as the private US universities, but there are two dozen European universities in the world top 100. I hear more and more people saying they want to send their kids to study in Europe instead of paying hundreds of thousands for private school here. The curriculum for CS and many other STEM is more

anonporridge β€’ Sep 19, 2022 β€’ View on HN

My understanding is that the trade off in European systems is a much more stringent entrance requirement.So, university is free, but a smaller percentage of people have the scores to get in. Only about 30% of German students go to university, vs 40+% of Americans.This isn't the worst idea. College in the US is overly fetishized and trade schools and/or going directly to work or starting a business is snubbed. The result seems to be a deeply overeducated, but under employable popu

kayoone β€’ May 4, 2017 β€’ View on HN

For the US thats true, as a german who can basically study for free at any of the "elite" Universities in the country (same for scandinavia, netherlands etc) the whole higher ed concept in the US seems borderline scam to me anyway.

donw β€’ Sep 2, 2020 β€’ View on HN

> Universities in Europe are generally high quality and low cost.And not universal. You do not go to a German university from a Realschule or a Hauptschule -- you go to Gymnasium, and if you succeed there, you can go to University.Otherwise, there are professional and vocational tracks available.University slots are limited as well -- you may have to hunt around for a university that has open space for you in your program of choice, or choose a different course of study.Cha

pchangr β€’ Jul 13, 2023 β€’ View on HN

I don’t know the specifics of the US education system very well but my impression is that a free or very cheap university system like most of Europe works better for everyone. Both the UK and US have similar problems for very similar reasons in my opinion.

rsp1984 β€’ Jun 5, 2017 β€’ View on HN

This whole discussion is very US-centric.When looking beyond US borders it turns out you can have it both ways: Get a degree from a very good university without paying tuition fees (or at least not much).For example in Germany international students can study basically for free. It's similar in other EU countries and the universities are typically much better than US state universities. I truly wonder why not more Americans are taking advantage of this.

privateSFacct β€’ Nov 7, 2019 β€’ View on HN

You are not understanding the way free university works.Your acceptance depends very very significantly on your performance in high school - there are strict cutoffs based on how you did on your abitur, which in turn relates to a series of high stakes exams and earlier tracking in high school (europe has tracking already in high school where entire high schools are different track).It's not get a high school diploma and go to university for free. To be a vet, a doctor, a lawyer etc -