Patent Prior Art

Comments discuss prior art's role in invalidating patents, challenges in patent examination discovering existing prior art, and debates on first-to-file vs. first-to-invent systems.

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bradshaw1965 • Aug 10, 2011 • View on HN

If he's angling for a patent, I have prior art.

fastball • Jan 27, 2021 • View on HN

How can you patent if there is open prior art?

eurleif • Jul 23, 2013 • View on HN

You could still claim prior art if you used or published the idea before they patented it. The difference between "first to invent" and "first to file" basically only comes up when someone invents an idea but keeps it private, which can be difficult to prove anyway. (IANAL, TINLA.)

nine_k • Aug 15, 2025 • View on HN

Won't these be invalidated by having prior art already in public domain?

pwg • Oct 22, 2019 • View on HN

Find a piece of prior art that invalidates their patents claims.

cordite • Mar 27, 2014 • View on HN

I'm sure there's plenty of prior art--but the PTO wouldn't know that.

s-phi-nl • May 5, 2010 • View on HN

Why wasn't the prior art discovered when the patent was granted?

ordx • Feb 18, 2022 • View on HN

How is it patentable if the "prior art" exists?

TeMPOraL • Oct 23, 2015 • View on HN

Can we get a patent on prior art itself?

kaolinite • Apr 30, 2012 • View on HN

I'd replace "can't" with "shouldn't be able to, but don't count on it". Every week there is a new case involving patents with obvious prior art getting through. As America has switched to a first-to-file system (as of the America Invents Act), you'll also have to prove that you invented it first. This presumably is easier with a website front-end, but possibly less so with back-end technologies.