AI Coding Productivity
Developers debate the effectiveness of AI coding tools like Copilot, Claude, and ChatGPT, sharing experiences on whether they deliver significant productivity gains, especially for experienced programmers, or fall short in complex or domain-specific tasks.
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Yes, I was using "ChatGPT" colloquially. I’ve tried Claude Code, Copilot - I currently have Gemini running though madox2's vim-ai plug - and a few of the others, but I’ve never personally seen the kind of 10x productivity gains some people here talk about. In my experience, it’s typically been quicker to just write the code myself than to wrangle with the model’s output, iterate, and debug. That’s not to say the tools are useless - like I said I think they're great at exposin
This is where you're getting it wrong. You're expecting a prefect AI writing perfect code and be able to solve any problem you give it. No, AI cannot do that. Instead, if you use it as a tool to quickly get you up to speed with boilerplate code or research, it can at least double your productivity when you learn how to use it effectively. Dude, unless you're a god-like programmer, you will get behind if you ignore any tool that can improve your productivity, even if it is just a t
I'm (genuinely) curious what kind of code you write. I haven't tried Copilot and I haven't used ChatGPT very much, but I feel I would be pretty surprised if either of them made significant improvements to my workflow.Copilot I could see, since I already use Intellisense, autocomplete, and snippets to great effect. I'd be annoyed if I had to work without them. But in general, knowing what I want the code to do is >90% of the work of writing new code.I feel there are a
Same here - completely relate.One thing I’ve noticed though that actually coding (without the use of AI; maybe a bit of tab auto-complete) is that I’m actually way faster when working in my domain than I am when using AI tools.Everytime I use AI tools in my domain-expertise area, I find it ends up slowing me down. Introducing subtle bugs, me having to provide insane amount of context and details (at which point it becomes way faster to do it myself)Just code and chill man - having spent
Nothing is in its "final form" today.I'm a long time SWE and in the last week, I've made and shipped production changes across around 6 different repos/monorepos, ranging from Python to Golang, to Kotlin to TS to Java. I'd consider myself "expert" in maybe one or two of those codebases and only having a passing knowledge of the others.I'm using AI, not to fire-and-forget changes, but to explain and document where I can find certain functionality
I don't understand the productivity that people get out of these AI tools. I've tried it and I just can't get anything remotely worthwhile unless it's something very simple or something completely new being built from the ground up.Like sure, I can ask claude to give me the barebones of a web service that does some simple task. Or a webpage with some information on it.But any time I've tried to get AI services to help with bugfixing/feature development on a la
I haven't done much, my theory here is...A) I barely get to do any coding these days anywaysB) Reading code is harder than writing it (and thus, easier to gloss over), and by the time I'm ready to write code I've already done all the hard work (I.E. even if vibe coding made me 50% faster, it's 50% of 5% of the overall software development life cycle in this more senior role)C) I've never even copied code from Stack Overflow into my editor (maybe once or twice in
My productivity is not significantly limited by my ability to generate code, so I see little value in tools which offer to accelerate the process. (I don't use autocomplete, either; I type quickly, and prefer my editor to stay out of the way as much as possible.) I spend far more time reading, discussing, testing, and thinking than I do writing.The people who rave about AI tools generally laud their facility with the tedious boilerplate involved in typical web-based business applications
I'm a veteran professional programmer with 40+ years of experience. So far, I'm finding coding with an AI to be pure sweetness and light.I cannot imagine why you cannot find flow using an AI assistant. I am definitely somebody who finds bliss in programming; and in my experience, AI assistants increase my bliss. My ideas are expressed in code much more efficiently. I spend less time in miserable documentation sets. I find myself fearlessly adding functionality that I would not have
There's a small but seemingly tireless brigade of "you're not actually moving faster, you're just fooling yourself" pundits on this site that feel compelled to chime in every time someone mentions that they get any benefit from AI coding tools. I'm just not going to engage with them anymore.That said... I jumped to a few random moments in your video and had an "oh my god" reaction because you really were not kidding when you said that you were pasting c