Flawed Heroes Debate

Its ok to not defend bad behaviour from people you otherwise admire.

I believe only people ignorant of his attitude or past can consider him anything close to a 'hero'.

The article isn't making an argument that he is evil. The argument is that he shouldn't necessarily be put on a pedestal as a person to model your behavour on.Half way through the biography and there are plenty of more sinister examples of behaviour (e.g. denying paternity).However, I believe the term is "flawed genius". The world is a better place when a few of them succeed! Of course, an unsuccessful flawed genius is better known as an "unbearable asshole".

Different attributes of people can be considered heroic. I personally don't think he's heroic either.

This is something I seem to be coming across a lot more often lately. People can't accept a viewpoint from someone that is mean towards a subset of people, or refuses to accept public opinion on a specific topic, while having done something amazing to progress human forwards in a specific area. If you can't appreciate the amazing work they did without compartmentalising their character, I consider that a fault.Taking sound advice from someone who you disagree with on a philosophical

It is also a simplification to highlight his achievements without also acknowledging that he doesn’t seem to be a very moral or stable person. Some of the criticism of his behavior is clearly sour grapes that he doesn’t act “properly” for a billionaire, but there are also many examples of him being a bad person a la Steve Jobs.We tolerate the characteristics because of the perceived value, but it would also be nice to highlight genuinely good people with significant accomplishments for being

With respect, I'm not sure which of these guidelines you think my post violates? Could you clarify for me? I'm particularly interested in your "destroys what it is for" comment, I'm not sure I understand. If you could elaborate that would be awesome.I think it's important to point out that this person who is lionised by so many was actually an objectively bad person who did reprehensible things.

Yes, that's fucked up and sad. Maybe all his success went to his head. My point was that not everything he did good should be cast in the bad light, for instance, a person wanting to run a manufacturing business could gain a lot from taking his advise. I'm not an apologist, just think there is value in reading about extraordinary people.

He is not someone we should idolize.

> Steve, like any other human, is a shade of grey.Not the lightest of shades though, to many people?I'm sure there is good in Alex Jones. It is very well buried if so, but it probably does exist. I still feel justified in never wanting to interact with him and wishing the rest of the world didn't have to either.While we shouldn't be completely dogmatic and only consider someone's bad points¹, and I wouldn't say that Jobs was at all actively evil