Trans Youth Puberty Blockers
This cluster debates the safety, reversibility, and appropriateness of puberty blockers and gender-affirming care for transgender children and teenagers, including desistance rates, consent issues, and long-term effects.
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As a transgender person I find HN members to be somewhat transphobic in previous discussions unrelated to this article about transgender issues. So unsure if it's a good place for discussion here. It would be nice if articles like the submitted one were moderated better. Feels like HN takes a stance of ignoring these gender topics or flagging them and while being more defensive of other non-gender topics that are controversial.Puberty blockers are used for other medical issues and aren&#
The correct word would have been puberty blockers (which presumably are also hormones).Most people who believe they are trans actually grow out of it. Puberty blockers (and also testosterone) have severe side effects (or main effects). Therefore more harm is done by overprescribing them.There is not even scientific evidence yet that trans people actually exist (as in somebody born in the wrong body somehow)."Ah it is said" - yeah in the same way that "it is said" tha
I'm sorry, I don't want to spend my whole friday evening getting into this.For me, the topic is personal because I was one of those young transgirls who was forced to go through male puberty. I transitioned the moment I was 18. I'm in my thirties now and still trans and still a woman. There's aspects of my body that are still permanently altered by the fact that I was forced to go through male puberty. I still resent the adults in my life, particularly the psychiatrist who
The only real concern is with children who transition early - it's unclear to what extent they can consent, and just how much counseling can affect their decision beyond what they genuinely feel (bearing in mind past examples, such as therapists implanting false memories of abuse in children during the Satanic Panic). Pushing someone into puberty blockers etc when they don't actually have gender dysphoria is also causing significant suffering for them later in life. Safeguards shouldn&
I know several people in transition (and post) and the one thing that stands out is how carefully it is done. You don't go to the doctor and order a sex change like it's a Big Mac. There's a whole support trajectory of psychological evaluation and support and transition is the last option. Of course they know gender dysphoria is often a temporary phase.No kid will get "castrated" just to fit in. Actual gender change operations aren't even done until adulthood, on
Teenagers generally aren’t making permanent changes to their bodies. Puberty blockers certainly aren’t permanent and have been shown to be safe and effective for medical conditions such as precocious puberty which these anti-trans people seem to be completely ignorant of. However, this seems to be assuming that the objections to trans folk have anything at all to do with the safety or happiness of the trans individual. It does not. The efficacy or treatment for trans folks is completely independ
A multitude of studies, not just one. This is the review covering the outcomes of gender dysphoric children who aren't given blockers:https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44546443
Flagging anyways because nothing good comes of a bunch of cis people discussing trans health care on HN. You have no idea what going through puberty with the wrong hormones is like for someone who is trans or how much work is needed to undo that.
I'm a little bit honored that you created an account just to argue with me.If puberty blockers weren't reversible, doctors wouldn't give them to kids who started puberty too early. Hormone Replacement Therapy isn't reversible, but neither is puberty, so it's not special in that regard.
Looking at the links, none of them suggest that surgeries are performed on children. Puberty blockers aren't surgery. Intersex children are surgically mutilated without their consent but adult trans people need an OK from two psychiatrists. If I had had puberty blockers (reversible) as a child, I wouldn't have had to go through something painful. I was only able to start hormones at the age of 23 when all the changes had already happened. Hormones aren't able to reverse everything