Approaching Women Risks
The cluster debates the risks and etiquette of men approaching women romantically, distinguishing between acceptable flirting and unwanted advances or harassment, often referencing post-#MeToo caution and gender perception differences.
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friendly conversation, sure, but there's enough people who refuse to take a hint that their romantic overture is unwanted. they might even retaliate with really aggressive, angry behavior.this is rare, but i think it has poisoned the well in some places -- especially for women, these unusual but very frightening situations can make the whole thing have a negative expected value.
Bzzzt! Thanks for playing! No, I would have a problem with it from anyone if the attention was unwanted. It is the 'unwanted' aspect of things which is important. A woman in a bar is not necessarily looking for any action - she may already be in a committed relationship, she may have just had a hard week at work and is unwinding with some friends, she might be a lesbian, or whatever.For your information I have also had to blow off very physically attractive men in much the same way. I
What happened to the woman in the article was unacceptable _if_ she clearly signaled she wasn't interested. On the other hand some women now think "Why won't that cute guy come hit on me?, is he shy or gay?" No he is worried you will report him for harassment. Forget ever trying to date someone from work it's a minefield (as is dating in general!).
This sounds very incellish. It’s not considered sexual harrasment to politely gauge interest and immediately back off when you see the signs they aren’t interested.
> The problem is, I don't believe a single one of my male friends (or female friends) would be capable of doing something like this.I know guys who I wouldn't be surprised to see do something like this, mostly from the bar I go to. I have female friends who know lots of guys who would stoop to this. They would not necessarily believe there's a lot wrong with it, and might welcome the advance if they liked the way he looked or acted. This guy did it sight unseen though, I can
how do I know which of the 30 women I bump into during a day are open to being hit on and which will feel annoyed?In effect, you ask them. However, this is not done in the literalist HN style - that is, you do not say "Hi, may I please hit on you?" or any other such set of words.Nonetheless, one asks, and some will say yes, and some will say no; some will know they're answering, some won't even notice, and sometimes the asker doesn't even notice that they&#x
Of course women want most men to leave them alone. Especially those men they went on a date with, and weren't a good fit.Most women in a relationship aren't looking for extra-marital male attention.Men of course are simply flattered by any attention, and assume this goes both ways. Hence wolf-whistles are supposed to be some kind of compliment.In a world where male on female violence is rife, -any- un-solicited attention is potentially dangerous. Men who can't gracefully
> The last time I innocently chatted up a "taken" woman next to her boyfriend, I was later told that by a number of individuals that it seemed like I was hitting on her and it was inappropriate. The allegations totally blew me away because that couldn't have been further from the truth. I was not flirting, I was not touching, I simply asked a lot about her work. I guess old school "bro code" says you shouldn't be too friendly with taken women. Personally, I think it's dumb. Maybe your "perp"
>I'm not sure what is more insulting: the assumption that any female speaker is automatically available or interested in dating, or that the women wouldn't see right through him.First:Without a wedding ring on your finger or knowledge of you dating - it is assumed you are single. This is a society norm because without asking - and it's considered rude to be direct and ask - there is no way to know. Please take note that this works both ways and is not gender discri
I get you. But the climate has shifted. "Unwelcome advances" can be different things to women. How do you know for woman A the "unwelcome advances" means this thing but for woman B it means other things.Lemme ask you. Asking a phone number from a woman is acceptable or not in a gym? It depends on whom you ask. Some women think that gym is strictly for working out. Other women are more open to this kind of approach.Not every man has high EQ, can read the room and women&#