iOS Sideloading Security
The cluster debates the security of Apple's App Store walled garden versus allowing sideloading and alternative app stores on iOS, questioning malware risks, review process effectiveness, and user choice.
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Apple lets people fuck their devices regularly with their app choices. The appstore doesn't protect anyone against malicious apps that pass validation. I don't see how its any worse than letting us sideload after tapping through a scary warning.
"Apple’s App Store does a lot to protect me." You can still have that by only installing apps from the App store, no? While I can sideload app from any website I trust. And someone else can install a whole different store they trust. I don't see how it affects your protection in any way.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39685272The problem exists in the Apple app store. So why behave as if it is an issue unique to windows and android?The apple situation makes it worse, people now expect the app store to be a safe place to download from and perhaps do less due diligence because they assume apple are doing the heavy lifting, mainly because Apple keep telling us they are doing the he
App Store reviews does not reduce malware - things slip through Apple's review process all the time. The iOS security features such as the sandbox is what makes iOS safe to run third party apps.
Unless those apps not from the App Store are open source, we have very little means of being able to trust those apps to do the right thing. Apple isn’t perfect, but they do provide a modicum of assurance that the apps you install aren’t going to be malware. Apple’s incentives are aligned with the consumer — if a bunch of malware infects Apple devices, that harms the Apple brand and the consumer. The App Store also rewards developers who do the right thing by providing access to a billion device
Avoiding unauthorized app stores because they might have apps than contain malware would be a stronger argument if Apple's own app store didn't also have apps that contain malware.
Hmm, like disallow them in the AppStore but allow sideloading apps, even an alternative app store - and then put a large banner that it is insecure blabla that the user can ignore if he/she so chooses. Or allow it only with some developer mode for which a user would have to touch something n times , like it is on Android. So those who don’t know what is it all about can stay in their walled garden, while the rest can use their goddamn 1000 dollar phone the way they want
What's preventing Apple from having a locked-down default and you having to tick a checkbox with a clear warning to side-step the App Store? That doesn't really compromise security, especially considering malware was being hosted by Apple on the AppStore itself in the past.
app stores are false security, always have been
They aren't warning Australia as a threat, they are making a very valid argument:> Apple claims that allowing sideloading and alternative app stores effectively opens the door for malware, fraud, scams, and other harmful content.You don't want random apps on your phone. The App Store vets apps thoroughly to ensure there's no malware. It would be virtually impossible to do the same for arbitrary apps getting side loaded.