Rocket Equation Tyranny

Comments discuss the rocket equation's exponential impact on fuel needs for space launches, comparing efficiency from Earth versus space or low-gravity environments like the Moon.

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Geezus_42 Sep 13, 2020 View on HN

You don't need to lift it from earth gravity therefore less fuel is required.

alex_stoddard Apr 13, 2018 View on HN

Does the rocket equation still bite to hard if fuel production is outside Earth's gravity well?

nayuki Feb 9, 2022 View on HN

This phenomenon is called "The Tyranny of the Rocket Equation": https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/station/expeditions/exped...

pharmakom Jan 2, 2023 View on HN

Doesn’t the reduced gravity make a huge difference compared to launching from Earth? Is this not the biggest factor? (Zero expertise here, genuinely curious)

sten Jul 28, 2017 View on HN

You can't escape the rocket equation.

lmm Jan 27, 2022 View on HN

Not much. There's a saying that once you get into orbit you're "halfway to anywhere", and required fuel is exponential in required delta-v. Just look at the sizes of the 3 stages of the Saturn V for a comparison point.

umeshunni Apr 14, 2019 View on HN

Why is it much more efficient? Doesn't it still have to carry the same mass up to the same altitude and velocity?

Yes, but you'd have to get it into space first. Rocket equation tyranny is expensive to get past.

chii Oct 31, 2014 View on HN

is there a form of transport that is _not_ limited by the rocket equation?

soulofmischief Oct 14, 2024 View on HN

What you're missing is the rocket equation. The less weight, the less fuel you need and the larger your payload. We should trust the decisions of these experienced engineers who are deeply familiar with the tradeoffs involved in spaceflight more than our own intuition.