Open Source Community Drama
The cluster centers on conflicts in open source projects, including maintainer oustings, politicization via CoCs, forks as alternatives, poor governance, and tensions between communities and project leadership or companies.
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So RubyGems has betrayed its community by ousting its maintainers. When a community-focused alternative created by the original maintainers is announced, it gets flagged on HN. What is wrong with people?This situation is eerily similar to the Freenode takeover[1] and the subsequent formation of Libera Chat[2] a few years ago, even down to the political leanings of those behind the takeover. Except if the Freenode incident occurred today, there would be a vocal portion on HN vehemently siding
Lemmy's team is very politicized, but even then it took significant pushback to change their minds about an issue that the community was decrying for reasons that were almost entirely technical.https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/issues/622I would not bed with these fellows myself.
This sounds like a broken development community.
Very sad to see this happening to the Python community. Maybe we need a fork with only technical discussion allowed. This CoC/vote stuff seems to poison every community it touches.
Can you give some examples of why the nodejs community is not nice?
Don't like the project community, don't use it, don't advocate for it, don't contribute to it, create an alternative.Why is this so difficult to understand? Why this wave of active policing?
I’m a bit alarmed by the many issues here. I’ve heard a lot from the maintainers but much from the foundation.- continued lack of communication - for so many issues to occur to multiple parties paints a picture of it being routine - that no immediate reversals have happened with utmost immediacy - the ethos of the maturity model - the policies apparently being enforced - even now… - for calls to solve things privatelyIt’s culturally indicative of the foundation’s values whether they kno
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37081306They pulled the rug out on a lot of people and people tend to hold grudges. Community edition is peanuts compared to using an open source tool you _could have_ fixed your own bugs with by creating PRs or adding features with PRs. I used to be a huge hashicorp fanboy... _used to_.
I'm surprised by apparent predominance of support here on HN for Strangeloop's position.Do you not recall the self-immolation of the Mozilla Community during the Brendan Eich CEO fiasco? Big overlap in the two communities.
As I said to Matt earlier today on the WordPress Slack "I've never seen anyone spread so much FUD about their own project before. I started out as sympathetic to your cause against WP Engine. But your behaviour has driven me - and many other good people - away. I want to be explicitly clear: I am in no position to judge the merits of your lawsuit, but I am in a position to judge your behaviour. I cannot fathom why you are trying to turn your own community against you. P