UBI Welfare Debate

Comments debate whether universal cash transfer programs like UBI are equivalent to traditional welfare, critiquing means-testing, work incentives, and government handouts.

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ReactiveJelly • Oct 22, 2022 • View on HN

We can't just give people money?

ams6110 • Dec 23, 2018 • View on HN

Yes it's welfare by another mechanism. It's giving you someone else's money, not letting you keep more of yours.

aussieguy1234 • Nov 15, 2018 • View on HN

If this isn't welfare, what is?

TrackerFF • Feb 10, 2022 • View on HN

Not too different from the "I earn $xxxk/year, and don't need any help from welfare programs. Why do we even have them? They make people lazy" crowd.

NullPrefix • Jan 12, 2021 • View on HN

This sounds like welfare with extra steps

yummyfajitas • Dec 27, 2010 • View on HN

Giving the poor less free stuff != taking stuff away from them.

judk • Apr 11, 2014 • View on HN

It seems counterproductive to the point of welfare to have the people who need welfare pay for it. It isn't an insurance policy.

chunky1994 • Aug 10, 2013 • View on HN

Unless I'm missing some obvious sarcasm here, isn't this exactly what a welfare state does?

frockington1 • Jan 2, 2020 • View on HN

Don't we already heavily subsidize poverty via welfare programs? I don't see how throwing even more money at a problem would have a different outcome.

badpun • May 31, 2019 • View on HN

I'm guessing there are welfare programs that make up the difference? Subsidised housing, food stamps etc.