Voter ID Requirements
The cluster debates the need for ID requirements to vote, particularly in the US where obtaining ID can be challenging without a national system, contrasting with other countries, and addressing voter fraud, suppression, and accessibility concerns.
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A lot of the US already allows voting without ID, and it used to be that way everywhere. There is essentially no cheating that ID requirements would prevent. The numbers are literally single digits per year. (Absolute numbers of fraudulent votes, not percentages.)
In other countries everyone has an ID automatically. That is a requirement to use IDs for voting. You need a proper national ID system, not the hodgepodge of random identity documents the US uses.
Walking down the street and voting are not the same thing.ID's are common, the vast majority already have a passport or driver license. You need this much to even be employed so bringing it with you for an election is not an onerous requirement, it's actually completely reasonable.EDIT: It seems HN has rate-limiting for comments now.
That's a loaded question.Getting an ID is prohibitive for certain classes of people, classes who correlate with voting for the Democratic party: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_ID_laws_in_the_United_St...Voter Impersonation is also not a problem in the U.S., so the whole Voter ID is a red herring to make it harder to vote
No, that is not an excuse. They will not let you vote if you do not have an ID. Why should it be an excuse anywhere? I just looked it up; getting an ID is cheaper in the US than in the Netherlands. If it is somehow extremely difficult to obtain an ID in the US, then surely the fact that this would make it difficult to vote is the least of the problems, since you presumably need an ID for lots of other things, like opening a bank account and getting married. Why is the outcry only about voting?
Americans do not need to provide ID to vote, so no?
It's a crime to vote in many countries without an id.
The difficulty of getting an ID is a reason not to require the ID for voting.If you want to make getting an ID easier, good for you. I don't believe for a moment you will succeed, because IDs are used for things other than voting, where their requirements may actually be necessary.The set of necessary requirements for voting may overlap with, but is not identical to the set of necessary requirements for state ID. Unless and until they are identical, requiring the ID for voting is a vi
The thing is states that require ID also deliberately make it much more difficult to get ID.But I would question why you need ID for voting. Voter fraud is near-nonexistent and you can use the polling card if you want a little more security.
The difference is that in the US there's no standard ID that's suitable for voting, that everyone has.Not everyone has a driver's license. It's possible to get a non-driver ID from the motor vehicle department in most states, but not everyone without a driver's license has this either.There's also no federal ID, other than a passport, which a large number (majority?) of people don't have.This is a big part of the reason why separating voter registratio