Website Impermanence Concerns
Discussions center on the ephemerality of websites and online content, worrying about disappearances due to hosting failures, service shutdowns like Geocities, owner death, or unpaid bills, with skepticism toward promises of permanent hosting.
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Great, they are now websites. What happens if they decide to no longer host them in two years?
How is this different from blogs dying due to someone not paying for a server? If I died tomorrow, my personal site would be gone as soon as my AWS credits ran out. Or all the sites which will fail once the CDNs providing their JS libraries are deprecated?My Hacker News comments will probably live for at least a decade or two. And I had no issues archiving this thread right now. https://archive.is/JrJEe
Isn't there a downside here?What if your content doesn't have enough views / you get bored / life changes so can't afford server costs anymore / die. Your server will expire eventually, and there goes your content. web.archive.org might have some sites archived, but many blogs won't have been archived so their content is just gone forever.I've self-hosted many platforms, and many have died, perhaps due to running costs or lack of need anymore. It
Apropos nothing, I found out today that bash.org died. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37295238 was the last I was able to find about it, and it's the top google search result.I've been thinking of the best way to make a website that won't die when I die. It seems like a hard problem. I was originally going to just trust that Github Pages will be around forever, but I'm not so su
What we consider "decent" today is not always "decent" tomorrow and things like personal blogs go down all the time or change their URL structure. Also not everyone has a community/family that will keep their work online after they are gone and I don't want to lose content because someone's hosting lapsed after their death.Looking back I wish I had archived some of the forums that I used as a kid as a number of them are just gone, no wayback machine, no cach
That is a bold promise that they will have to break at some point. Everything is ephemeral in this world, especially applications on internet.There is one thing they could have done: commit an amount on money in an official bank account, or with a contract, etc... that will serve as the back up plan to keep the content online if only they were to shut down.Keeping static text online is actually pretty cheap.But then if you want your content down one day you would have to have some sort
I don't really think you can guarantee for it to live forever unless you are paying someone to do this service for you. If you are just hosting it on a big site like tumblr you can hope that it stays up, but you never know if something will happen where they go under.
Kind of an interesting thing, but nothing is guaranteed. The only things that are probably guaranteed are the websites with boards, major social media networks, with CEOs who make sure that they get passed on. Apple is a pretty good example. I currently run a popular website, http://www.confessionsoftheprofessions.com and I have hundreds of companies and individuals that rely on me every year to publish t
Fairly obvious if you read through their "promise":> We promise to do everything in our power to ensure that any content you publish on the platform will continue to be available on the web forever, at the same permanent link, as long as you want it there.If the company stops existing, there is no "We" anymore so realistically, they don't have to continue trying. If all of them gets hit by buses (or all by the same bus), I think it's reasonable to say they
I've had my own domains for over a decade and I switched my mail off Google to my own servers as well.One thing I worry about thought: what happens when I die? My credit cards will eventually shut down, my Linode will turn off when my card gets declined, and my domains will fail to renew.But the same thing happens the other direction. Github could shut down Github pages one day, or they could even go out of business. Geocities is gone (although I think Archive.org backed up a lot of i