Language-Thought Relationship
The cluster debates whether language is necessary for thought, reasoning, and abstraction, discussing examples like non-verbal thinkers, animals, Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, and AI limitations.
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The rare humans who don't speak any language (or animals, for that matter) can still think, which shows that thought is more than manipulating language constructs.
Does language actually 'help', or is it just the best we have? e.g. would running a thought through language have any benefit in a world where telepathy existed
We humans model a ton of reality with language
Human perform meta analysis of the language. We can think about the language. The AI as of yet cannot.
Theory: there are no humans without language. Consider: what language do you think in?
I'm referring to the idea that reasoning requires language.
Perhaps language is the foundation for symbol manipulation and complex thoughts. Are feelings a language?
Can you form abstractions without language?
The claim isn't that it's impossible to have a thought unless you have language for it, but rather that having language for something makes it easier. It's a close relative of Kolmogorov Complexity and a variety of theorems from machine learning regarding hypothesis classes - different languages have more or less effective ways to express the same concept, and choosing a language with better notation for a given topic can make that topic easier to handle. In many cas
Even across guman languages we see variation in thought coming from what language can express. We invent languages to describe and communicate our world, but without language tools to express and record something we don't generalize some concepts. The notorious example is societies with no language concept for zero. They still experience eating the last fruit on a bush, or there being no clouds in the sky, but tying those both back to a concept of zero doesn't happen without the word f