Language-Thought Relationship

The cluster debates whether language is necessary for thought, reasoning, and abstraction, discussing examples like non-verbal thinkers, animals, Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, and AI limitations.

➡️ Stable 0.7x Science
4,506
Comments
20
Years Active
5
Top Authors
#1943
Topic ID

Activity Over Time

2007
6
2008
36
2009
43
2010
80
2011
65
2012
80
2013
97
2014
109
2015
165
2016
231
2017
263
2018
219
2019
293
2020
254
2021
307
2022
301
2023
674
2024
584
2025
667
2026
32

Keywords

e.g AI GP youtube.com McKenna i.e language human brain thought humans concepts thoughts language just languages communicate

Sample Comments

badpun Apr 23, 2023 View on HN

The rare humans who don't speak any language (or animals, for that matter) can still think, which shows that thought is more than manipulating language constructs.

pazimzadeh Oct 20, 2024 View on HN

Does language actually 'help', or is it just the best we have? e.g. would running a thought through language have any benefit in a world where telepathy existed

erikaww May 15, 2024 View on HN

We humans model a ton of reality with language

virmundi Oct 28, 2021 View on HN

Human perform meta analysis of the language. We can think about the language. The AI as of yet cannot.

dboreham Jun 18, 2024 View on HN

Theory: there are no humans without language. Consider: what language do you think in?

toolslive Jun 30, 2016 View on HN

I'm referring to the idea that reasoning requires language.

windows2020 Apr 1, 2022 View on HN

Perhaps language is the foundation for symbol manipulation and complex thoughts. Are feelings a language?

mensetmanusman Sep 27, 2020 View on HN

Can you form abstractions without language?

saulrh Jul 17, 2016 View on HN

The claim isn't that it's impossible to have a thought unless you have language for it, but rather that having language for something makes it easier. It's a close relative of Kolmogorov Complexity and a variety of theorems from machine learning regarding hypothesis classes - different languages have more or less effective ways to express the same concept, and choosing a language with better notation for a given topic can make that topic easier to handle. In many cas

galangalalgol May 26, 2024 View on HN

Even across guman languages we see variation in thought coming from what language can express. We invent languages to describe and communicate our world, but without language tools to express and record something we don't generalize some concepts. The notorious example is societies with no language concept for zero. They still experience eating the last fruit on a bush, or there being no clouds in the sky, but tying those both back to a concept of zero doesn't happen without the word f