Electoral College vs Popular Vote

The cluster focuses on debates about US presidential elections where candidates like Trump in 2016 won the Electoral College but lost the popular vote, questioning the system's fairness and representativeness.

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Sample Comments

will_walker Dec 23, 2019 View on HN

I’m not sure this is just being written in bad faith, but in the 2016 presidential election, the winner had over 3 million less votes (over 2% of votes tallied). The electoral college system of the US values certain voters more than others in terms of assigning points to the contestants.

pg314 Nov 10, 2016 View on HN

It might have looked like a total landslide to you, but it wasn't. He won the electoral college, she won the popular vote. The polls had it as a close election and they were off by a couple of percent.

bizzyb Jan 29, 2025 View on HN

Doesn't necessarily change your overall point but Trump won a plurality of the vote, not a majority.

ImJamal Jan 4, 2026 View on HN

Many of the polls were looking at popular votes, not the electoral college which Clinton did win.

samfisher83 May 3, 2018 View on HN

Trump didn't get the majority of the vote. He won the electoral college.

ktallett Jul 18, 2025 View on HN

The popular vote doesn't mean right.

r0s Jan 9, 2021 View on HN

You need to check the popular vote counts on that election again.

lulmerchant Mar 21, 2018 View on HN

Neither candidate was campaigning for a popular vote, they were both campaigning to win the electoral college. Which Trump did because ~63,000,000 Americans decided, purely of their own free will, that he was the better candidate. No matter how much you try to retroactively gerrymander the outcome, both candidates were playing on a level playing field, one of them won and one of them lost. It’s really a testament to democracy that an outsider candidate can prevail over the amount of establishmen

Thriptic Sep 26, 2017 View on HN

Actually collectively we voted against the government. Trump lost the popular vote but won specific states which is how he got elected.

PierceJoy Nov 20, 2025 View on HN

Trump received 49.8% of the vote. Harris received 48.3%. Where is the bias?Outcomes that don’t match with polls do not necessarily indicate bias. For instance, if Trump had won every single state by a single vote, that would look like a dominating win to someone who only looks at the number of electors for each candidate. But no rational person would consider a win margin of 50 votes be dominating.