Linus Torvalds' Rudeness

The cluster debates Linus Torvalds' abrasive, blunt, and often rude communication style in Linux kernel development discussions, weighing its acceptability against his massive contributions to open source.

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thrownaway954 Sep 17, 2018 View on HN

Can't stand how people are too sensitive today. Linus is and has been a asshole for decades. But that asshole has given us one of the greatest contributions to computing. If you can't handle his attitude then don't be a part of the community or grow some thicker skin. Life isn't always soft.

kevinmchugh Sep 10, 2013 View on HN

It's pretty common knowledge that Linus is abrasive and abrupt and frequently rude. It's typically speculated that he does it to manage his workload. This is a case where a response from him shouldn't have been necessary. Just read the code. That's one of the benefits of OSS after all, right?

quasque Jan 24, 2013 View on HN

I think it's inaccurate to suggest Linus is universally applauded for his rude behaviour. The last public outburst that caught wider attention than the LKML seemed to quite divide programmers in terms of its appropriateness. Personally, I found his attitude repellent and his tone unjustified.

igsmo Nov 4, 2015 View on HN

i read this response by linus and it doesn't seem to be abusive to anyone, he's being critical of the code.who is this linus guy anyway? he sounds like a typical new yorker.

metaphorm Jan 22, 2015 View on HN

he's not uncivil. he's just blunt. the fact is, Linus does the right thing when it matters. you might not like the way he writes emails on the developer mailing list. you might think he swears too much or uses too much hyperbole. it doesn't matter though.what you're advocating here is censorship and ostracism of one of the most important people in the FOSS world. think about that for a few minutes. you're advocating censorship and ostracism. who's uncivil now?

parasubvert Apr 19, 2014 View on HN

That's something Linus Torvalds has effectively said as well, so it's not as asinine as you might think. Unduly harsh perhaps.

sangnoir Apr 16, 2018 View on HN

Linus being gentle to noob doesn't buck the trend, but fits a pattern - Linus only serves his harshest criticism to senior devs who ought to know better.

PumpkinSpice Oct 17, 2023 View on HN

The issue isn't directness. The issue is repeatedly taking needless swipes at the author's competency or intent ("worthless", "complete nonsense", "totally illogical"), when Linus' criticisms are really mostly just small (if valid!) gripes about naming conventions and readability.This is particularly funny because I remember that several years ago, he publicly apologized for being abrasive and promised to get better... but old habits die hard.He

ronsor Jan 7, 2020 View on HN

This reminds of a Linus Torvalds rant, with less cursing.

ivraatiems Jul 11, 2016 View on HN

Every time Linus Torvalds' rude behavior comes up on HN, people leap to his defense. Then, people leap on top of those people for leaping to his defense. Personally, I fall strongly in the "he's rude and annoying and should stop it" camp. For the sake of productive discussion, I'd like to list a few things that are not valid defenses to his dickishness:1) "He's a visionary developer." Yes, but plenty of visionaries are also friendly and polite. You can