School Indoctrination Debate
The cluster discusses whether public schools indoctrinate children with political ideologies like 'woke' views or LGBTQ topics instead of focusing on core subjects, debating parents' rights versus the state's role in education.
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Answer to question: because public schooling is becoming a place of indoctrination/brainwashing (particularly of woke mentality), rather than a place of learning. This is very apparent in America, but even happens in outside places like England - kids as young as 7 are being taught and groomed with unnecessary sex and sexual ideas, when that age is meant for innocent play and exploration.I know a few parents who've taken objection to this. They would rather have their children be pr
Indoctrinating children with views that their parents would object to is not the proper purpose of public education. The vast majority of parents are happy for their children to learn reading, writing, arithmetic, and so on. Specific political views, or that people with their skin color inherited historical evil, is something else entirely.
In an age where people can't agree on if we should be doing a census or not, the idea of letting parents tell their children what is right and wrong just seems immoral. School is an opportunity for alot of these kids to learn about the world outside their parents worldview and as much as you might hate it it's useful to know the pythagorean theorem and the civil war in some detail
My favorite part of this argument is that the "It's not a ban" folks always insist "But but parents authority"Mhmm, and what about when those parents are wrong? Does the state not have a duty to educate people even when parents think that the moon landing is a hoax or plate tectonics aren't real?When your parent is an insane person, sometimes a school is your only protection.But so many conservatives find this unconscionable. How dare you! Parents ca
I agree that teaching kids things that aren’t true, or telling them to not believe their own eyes, just to follow a particular political ideology is not good but I’m not sure what you mean about it getting so much worse. It is very hard to have any kind of education system without involvement from parents and instilling a value of education. I’ve seen many kids unable to recite basic facts or understand basic things that they were definitely taught in public schools. Being able to work at sandwi
I agree in principle but I think you are missing the controversy that’s going on. These topics are being taught irresponsibly with no regard to the neutrality, openness or critical thinking that you seem to be implying. They are being used to indoctrinate. In some parts of the United States, for some topics, schools have stopped being institutions that students can discuss these topics outside of very narrow and one sided perspective. I’m not exaggerating, students get bad marks or aren’t even
People shouldn’t need to take their kids out of school to avoid ideological indoctrination.
I don't think calling names helps the argument. You can't just say "well, that's a little to extreme, so you're wrong". I simply pointed out that it happens so that most kids are educated in public schools. Would it be such a stretch to propose that those children are educated according to what government believes is important? Surely no one doubted this happened in the Soviet Union. How is the US, or for that matter, almost any other country different? Soviet child
All education is a form of indoctrination. When you teach a kid to read you are indoctrinating them, but you do so with the assumption that if you don't teach them to read they will be worse off. So you indoctrinate them. As we all go through life people are interacting making similar judgement calls based on time, place and circumstance. So indoctrination in that regard is omnipresent and has a good side. Sorry to be off topic but I felt like typing that. I agree that we should fight our shallo
Parents don't want religious or quasi-religious viewpoints foisted on their children. Leave both LGBTQ and religious indoctrination out of the schools. Respect the right of parents to train their children as they see fit, outside the classroom and the school library.