Humans Part of Nature

The cluster debates whether humans are part of nature or separate from it, questioning if human actions like environmental modification are 'natural' and critiquing the naturalistic fallacy in discussions of conservation and humanity's impact.

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Mc_Big_G Oct 26, 2020 View on HN

Nature will be fine. It's us that won't be. Let's stop pretending that it's the same thing.

riffraff Jun 17, 2025 View on HN

But nature doesn't care about usefulness, that's a human concept. The planet will always be fine, it's humankind which is screwing itself.

dwighttk Jun 21, 2017 View on HN

why are humans not part of "nature"?

robofanatic Nov 2, 2020 View on HN

why is one different than the other? aren't humans part of nature?

smhost Jun 2, 2021 View on HN

"we shouldn't mess with nature" is also a naturalistic fallacy, fyi

nightski Aug 26, 2020 View on HN

Ah yes, pesky humans. If only nature didn't have those killer humans it would be all peace and harmony.

ggreer Dec 15, 2014 View on HN

I think it's important to ask two questions:1. Is this a bad thing for humanity?2. If it is, how can we stop it?I'm not sure the answer to 1 is, "Yes." If an organism is useful to us, we domesticate it. The rest of nature (while sometimes pretty) doesn't affect our survival, actively harms us, or is too hardy to unintentionally destroy (cyanobacteria). Nature is an extremely complex system, but let's not pretend it was a precariously-balanced eden before we

nickmain Aug 16, 2012 View on HN

Humans are a force of Nature, not a force apart from Nature.

9HZZRfNlpR Jan 18, 2020 View on HN

The source is looking at nature and all the species?But that doesn't mean we, the smartest of them all, can't make some changes. Nature is also killing the weaker etc, things that we don't agree on as humans.

foolfoolz Jan 15, 2019 View on HN

this is the age of humans. nature will have to sacrifice to support us