US Nation of Immigrants Debate

I thought USA is country of immigrants.

There’s many ethnic Germans in America, but there’s almost nothing German in broader American law and civic society. Thats the distinction between the settler population (British people and African slaves, with a relatively small proportion of Dutch, Spanish, and French) and the immigrant population (everyone else).America is a country that happens to have a lot of people of immigrant ancestry. That’s an incidental feature. Because it’s a physically large country that was for a long time rela

Not really. Unlike other nations, the idea of modern american nation was born from the hard work of european "immigrant" pioneers going back only a few centuries and that of other immigrants thereafter. This just seems more like closing the door behind me.

Well it's not your country, it's a country made up of immigrants, of which your ancestors were one. You aren't the indigenous people, the US is built 100% on immigration.

That’s a retcon ginned up in the 20th century to assimilate Irish and Italian immigrants. The US was established by colonizers and settlers and enslaved people, not immigrants. Colonizers and settlers displace an existing population and create a new society in that place. In 1790, over 90% of the white American population was British ancestry. My wife’s family, which populated Oregon in the 1800s, were settlers, not immigrants. My family, which came to Virginia in the 1980s, are immigrants. It’s

You're just being xenophobic. You do realize that all of America was built up by immigrants, right?

Empirically, I'm not wrong.98% of the population are immigrants or the descendents of immigrants.The people who wrote the US Constitution were immigrants or the descendents of immigrants.All the presidents, including the current one, have been the descendents of immigrants.The US Constitution has survived this reality for 200+ years.I realize some people, like my aunt (whose grandfather was an italian immigrant), want to pretend there is a difference between immigrants coming

Fundamentally practically every US-citizen is an immigrant or of immigrant descent. They came in, slaughtered the natives and are now claiming nobody else can come in. The endemic racism and xenophobia looks to the outsider mostly like a complex, affirming that they definitely do belong while trying as hard as possible not to consider that other people belong just as much as they do.

Most nations of the old world have had people living in its constituent lands for several centuries at the least. Immigration has not meaningfully shaped them, unless we talk about specific instances of forced population movement (partition of nations, ethnic cleansing etc.).The US has for most of its history had a significant population of immigrants, rising up to 10% of the population at the turn of the 20th century. It has absolutely been made by immigrants; people who decided to move to t

I am curious what your ethnicity is. At what point did you ancestors arrive in the United States, or are you perhaps an immigrant yourself?Did any of your ancestors, at any point, belong to a group of immigrants that was considered by a portion of the US populace as "undesirable", but were let in nonetheless?Would you consider your own presence in the United States as a benefit of such immigration which took place a while back?