Shame vs Guilt Debate
The cluster focuses on discussions about the distinctions between shame and guilt, their roles as motivators or demotivators in moral judgments, personal experiences, and social behaviors, often in response to controversial opinions or actions.
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I didn't say I don't like those people, I said i believe they feel guilt yet avoid shame by using flawed reasoning and self deception. Those were just examples i thought would help sell my point to the HN crowd.
You're assuming that we feel guilty about it!
Explain why you think it’s shameful?
It seems weird to shame someone for talking about their own experience?
"I feel ashamed to be human sometimes."Don't be. Feel proud to be one of the people who understands that this is wrong, & why.
You have to care to be ashamed.
Shame for you telling other people how they should feel.
Oh yeah, I'm a terrible person, no doubt about that. Doesn't change the argument one bit, however.(See how your attempt at shame failed? That's why shame is not a useful tool.)
Where is the shame coming from?
The shame you feel for your opinion is a good start