E2E Encryption Debate

Comments debate the implementation, validity, and implications of end-to-end encryption in messaging services and apps, questioning whether services truly provide E2E and what features might break it.

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Sample Comments

elvecinodeabajo Feb 22, 2019 View on HN

You're forgetting E2E encryption.

sasvari Sep 28, 2016 View on HN

if you use e2e encryption, it doesn't.

alex_young Oct 26, 2021 View on HN

Context is the discussion about e2e encryption. Sorry if that wasn't clear.

orthecreedence May 31, 2024 View on HN

No. E2E encryption doesn't really apply here.

benced Jun 23, 2025 View on HN

What implementation of end to end encryption doesn't involve this?

ymerkli Dec 27, 2019 View on HN

Sounds great, what about E2E encryption though?

fragmede Feb 28, 2025 View on HN

Don't blindly trust it, but that's the whole point of end to end encryption!

BafS Jan 14, 2025 View on HN

Definitely not, you cannot have E2E encryption without it

prego_xo Sep 23, 2022 View on HN

It's e2e encrypted, just they have the keys and use them :)

INTPenis Mar 14, 2023 View on HN

How about encryption? It's called e2ee after all.