US vs Europe Living

The cluster discusses trade-offs between higher US salaries and Europe's superior quality of life, including healthcare, work-life balance, vacation time, safety, and social services, especially for tech workers.

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hash07e Jun 16, 2022 View on HN

Let me change your perspective.How about where you fit better?Think about:1. You want to call a friend to drink coffee chat? Which place is better?2. Your kid is going to school and later do university? Which place is better?3. Kid is sick and you need a hand where it would be better?In Europe you will be low middle class for at least 10 years and then middle class for the rest. Considering US standards.There is no mobility in Europe and even if you are promoted taxes will t

weberc2 Jul 3, 2017 View on HN

I believe it. I wonder if that figure assumes personal insurance and the like as opposed to corporate benefits. I imagine for the HN crowd, the US is the better financial bargain (obviously there are lots of other factors besides finances) but if I were low income maybe I would prefer the EU?

phyller Oct 31, 2018 View on HN

I hear this a lot, but you can do the same thing in the US with a much higher salary. I have taken 4 to 5 weeks off in a year, plus two weeks of national holidays, with no pay cut at all. You can negotiate for more. US companies will pay for your healthcare basically completely (your entire family), and contribute towards continuing education and your retirement accounts.Granted, that doesn't continue after you stop working for them, but we do have federal government provided money and m

withinboredom Sep 22, 2025 View on HN

I make about half of what I did in the US, but take home more money. Insurance is cheap, no expensive healthcare, no car insurance, no car payment, childcare is subsidized and basically free, all other insurance is All that in the US was over 7-8k a month of my paycheck, gone. I get all of that for less than 2k a month.Let’s not even discuss how advanced the EU banking

sumuyuda Feb 20, 2025 View on HN

While the salary will be lower, the cost of living in Europe is much cheaper than in the US. You also get much more via the social services and safety net (Public transportation, public health care, better worker’s rights and protections). In Europe there is also a much better mindset around work and it’s place in your life. Leading to a much better work life balance.

Philip-J-Fry Nov 27, 2022 View on HN

Eh? The majority don't. Quality of life in western Europe is generally excellent.Pay in the US is attractive, but doesn't make up for what you lose from being in many European countries. Health care, public transport, well maintained roads, better work-life balance, more vacation time, less poverty, won't get murdered in a mass shooting etc. Your mobility as a citizen in the EU is excellent as well, free to travel to so many different cultures.I live in the UK, and this coun

wkat4242 Jun 19, 2023 View on HN

Yeah I live in one of the lower-wage EU countries even though I'm from one of the higher-wage ones. Though in practice it doesn't really matter as cost of living is lower too, it just matters when buying electronics. Or a car but I don't need one where I live and I hate driving. And having completely free healthcare gives a lot of peace of mind.But I don't want to work harder to have more. I have enough to live comfortably. I don't get this whole ratrace thing and mos

jakub_g Apr 22, 2021 View on HN

1) In Europe you don't get unexpected medical bills for tens/hundreds thousands of dollars when you have some medical issue.2) Your kids won't get shot in the school.3) You don't have to drive 20 minutes to the closest store to buy bread and milk.4) I have 35d of paid vacation, while AFAICT in US you're lucky if you get 20. I'd get a brain melt or die from overworking if I had any less vacation days than now.I've never been to US so I overly general

kwanbix Oct 28, 2025 View on HN

As a non-american (from South America) who lived in both USA an Europe:Yes, in USA you get much more money, like you said 2x~5x, but then:University is expensive as fck. Health care is expensive as fck. You have 5 days of paid sick leave per year in most companies. You have 10 days of paid holidays per year in most companies.In contrast, in Europe: University was cheap or free. Healthcare is cheap and universal. If you are sick you are sick, either the company or the health insurance pa

Insanity Aug 31, 2025 View on HN

This is an incredibly naive take in trying to postulate the US as a better place to live, and genuinely makes me curious how much you’ve actually seen of EU.Quality of life, by a number of metrics like HDI, is higher in (Western) European countries compared to the US. And even while total salaries might be lower, healthcare infrastructure, life expectancy, food quality etc are better.Pure take-home money doesn’t tell you the entire picture.And for pure anecdata, I have friends who migra