Ancient vs Modern Civilizations

The cluster debates the advancement and sophistication of ancient and prehistoric civilizations compared to modern society, questioning linear technological progress, the definition of civilization, and examples like Gobekli Tepe or lost societies.

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bluGill Nov 5, 2020 View on HN

pretty much stone age. Anything more than that depends on civilization. Even stone age depended on civilization for the most part.

mongol Dec 11, 2019 View on HN

No probably not. That would take us past the agricultural revolution, so far back we usually do not talk about civilization

hellofunk Jun 27, 2020 View on HN

I certainly never had that opinion. I would consider for example the people of ancient Greece to be an advanced civilization, despite the relative lack of what we consider to be modern technology. And you can go back much further than ancient Greece for that matter.

dleslie Apr 29, 2022 View on HN

That needn't be aliens. Human culture existed prior to the old kingdom.

ereyes01 Jul 11, 2017 View on HN

I kind of disagree with that. Yes we have more technology and science, but there are also lots of human processes and social orders (like nations and governments) that don't really change. I'm not sure superior technology guarantees the survival of civilization as we know it in the event of some cataclysm, or wide-scale famine... imagine how many things in the world would be messed up if the US and China were to lose all their value/power in a short amount of time.Also, I think

glitchc Aug 22, 2023 View on HN

The answer to this lies in our history. Given that we know so little about past civilizations, especially older than 6000 years ago, and new discoveries sometimes startlingly reveal how advanced they were, the answer would be no.

tzs May 15, 2023 View on HN

Thousands of generations ago considerably predates the invention of agriculture, civilization, and humans living in societies larger than a few dozen people. So many things are different compared to then that it probably isn't useful to compare to.

asyx Nov 28, 2024 View on HN

That’s a cultural difference though. It’s like when people believe that you’re going to be declared a witch and burned at the stake if you time travelled to the past and talked about iPhones. Just like in any culture today, they’d just assume you’re nuts, laugh and move on.However, people generally underestimate how culture differs. The idea of belonging to a certain group was vital in the Middle Ages. And that’s something modern people would probably not put much thought in if time travel wa

keiferski Jan 21, 2021 View on HN

Virtually every civilization pre-Industrial Revolution?

"Predating Stonehenge by 6,000 years, Turkey's stunning Gobekli Tepe upends the conventional view of the rise of civilization"Ha! It is hilarious to see west measure 'rise of civilization' against some dumb set of stones wedged by people who probably didn't know how to write. Plain fodder for insular minds.Civilizations in the middle east (such as the now broken Syria) and even Indo-Srilankan subcontinent have been known to have practiced and even have written