War Ethics Debate
The cluster focuses on the moral and human costs of war, debating the brutality of killing soldiers and civilians, justifications for violence, compassion for conscripts, and the realities faced by those who fight versus those who decide.
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"human considerations when sending people to war, ability to be brutally pragmatic" Don't you think these two are contradictory? :-)
the people who die in war aren't the people who decide to get into a war.
This simply isn’t true. And even if it were, that is still no excuse. Terrible things happen in war. Innocent people die or get seriously scarred in war, often for decades to come after the war ends. Being “better then the opposing party” is no excuse and provides no comfort to the victims of war.
I'm upvoting you to counter the downvotes because that is the brutal reality of war, particularly if the top brass (on both sides) don't actually have anything to lose.
We're literally at war. In a war, it's not just "their" guys that get killed. It's a two-way thing. It's amazing how many people don't seem to get this.
how does the average member of society benefit from being forced to go to war and die ?
Sorry, killing human beings en masse can never be a good thing.Have some compassion. Countless Russians are being conscripted to fight a war they don't want to. These are all children of someone.That things like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_truce can happen speaks volumes about this. The wars are between countries, not their people.Don't lose you
It was a war, wasn't it? Millions and millions have died, we just can't imagine what was happening at that horrible period. Now it is very easy to say "I would never do THAT!", but who knows.
Yet rhetoric against war seems to be about poor American soldiers who give their lives abroad, rather than civilians. I don’t think it’s far fetched to think that people will care less about humanity and civilians if the mortality is reduced for your own army.
It's no more and no less "disgusting" than being burned in an APC, have your limbs torn off in a trench by an artillery shell, or slowly bleeding out after being shot in a field. You just normally don't see those deaths, and here you saw one. Why does that make you not care who wins this war, the ones waging a fascist colonial war or the ones defending their families from it?