Human Extinction Advocacy Criticism

Yukowsky is presumably a "we have to kill the humans in order to save them" maximalist.

Yudkowsky is an avowed extreme utilitarian of the "take a person from the street and kill him if his organs could save two people, as long as there is forced pill everyone would take so that everyone doesnt get nervous it that could happen to them" type. Of the "unless the population was really large and the pill would hurt their throats for more utilons than gained by the net increase in life" type.A real argument he made went something like: killing an orphan to avoid e

Which results in killing all humans. I never said anything about murderous intent, so I’m not sure what distinction you are properly making here. Seems like the end result is the same: all humans dead.(I don’t buy the orthogonality thesis or instrumental goals argument, however.)

It is nigh impossible to be "unnecessarily negative" about a philosophy that is ok with killing all humans in the name of a greater good.

This is the definition of strawman. "Advocate for killing all humans" sounds like someone advocating for a genocide, but instead it's just the same transhumanist thinking (which Yudkowsky also believes in, FYI)

I think it's a fallacy to assume that spree killers are trying to seize any kind of political power. The Columbine killers could not care less about educational or school policy: they were simply extreme nihilists who hated everyone and everything, and they were ready to prove it in the most self-aggrandizing way.Mind you, I'm not saying that we should tolerate such folks, either; and once you get past their tiresome, narcissistic self-aggrandizement, it's not like they

and btw, " If I was a cow I’d want to be extinct." - that's a good philosophical point that indicates the lurking nature of some of the vegans, vegetarians etc.They are not only would rather think that it is better for a cow to die than to live some time, but also ....they would spread the idea that maybe humanity would better off going extinct..And this idea genocidal idea can lead to things similar to what was done by different totalitarian streams of 20th century: Nazi

This works out to, "Kill all of humanity to make sure tyrants die too."Perhaps there is a better way?

> Now you argue that killing another human being for philosophical reasons is always collectivist according to your [asgard1024's] definition. That does nothing whatsoever to make the quoted statement true.What I said is true of (almost) any definition of "collectivist", including ctlby's.> You dismiss any possibility that such a person is following an inexpressed philosophy.Yes, because any inexpressed philosophies were not subject of the discussion; we can&#x

Yuval Noah Harari is the worst offender of the reductionist mindset. I can't even begin to understand how the WEF even listens to that uppity book peddler.