European Dev Job Market

Yep.. you get paid shit as a dev here unless you run your own business.. has always been like that, will always be like that. Europe will never be big in software. We have nice livable cities, and we have old cultures, that’s about all what’s good here

A few things about the EU's (especially southern / eastern EU) job market:- There is a job shortage at the moment. This is not as acute in tech but the situation in tech is not good either.- Startups are chronically poor. There is little investment in startups and it's hard to secure it. If you are involved with a small startup it's likely it has existed for 5+ years and it has never had a round of more than €100k.- Companies can't just compete with each other h

Try Stockholm, it has a huge tech sector and you can go there to work as an EU citizen, no questions asked. You can't afford to live in stockholm either without a job of course, but programmers get jobs quite easily if they speak English, and salaries are decent.

That's not what I've been hearing from European co-workers. Switzerland and London being somewhat of an exception, the vibe I get there are few if any good jobs and few good and ambitious developers left in Europe. Everyone who is any good and ambitious moves to London, or the US unless they have special circumstances.People from France, Spain etc. tend to be more polite about it, but specifically 3 people from German speaking regions in Bay Area - 2 natives and one who moved to the

If you are in an EU state why not move somewhere with a better job market like Germany, UK, the Netherlands or the nordic countries (you don't need to be able to speak anything but English to get work as a programmer in any of these)?

Come to Europe. Salaries are (much) lower, but we can use good devs and you'll have vacation days and health care.

Try east europe, pays better and lower taxes. Standard of living is improving and accommodation is way better. You have room for growth as well. At least that’s what i see among software engs in Romania. Net pay is lower but take home is better. Heard poland and bulgaria arent far off. Ukraine was also good before the war.

Why don't you consider Germany? US is great in terms of taking technological inspirations but I wouldn't want to live there as that would mean working for the landlords. I've been to Berlin for a year and consider working for any company there (big or small) because the prices (rents, food, travel, entertainment) are low and the incomes (whether salary or hour based) are high and they pay satisfactorily to IT workers. They prefer more enterprise stuff though such as Java and SAP.

My job takes me to Frankfurt and Brussels once or twice per year for four weeks at a time.Every time I am inundated by queries from the local engineers and developers about how to get work either directly with for my employer or any other US company.For the same level of skill and experience I'm paid more than double the typical EU engineer and the cost of living (including health care and retirement planning!!!) is much lower where I live.On top of all of that, I'm 49.5% moro

I don't understand why it will be harder to attract software developers to Italy versus Poland. Weather and environment are much nicer and if this job ends you just move elsewhere.I would easily move to a cheap locale even if tech scene there is not abundant. I'd not move to London or Switzerland since you will always be 2nd class citizen compared to e.g. bankers. Which is just non issue in southern europe.Weak economic is a thing you leverage.